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    Default Creating a Practical Simple, Low Cost Router Table

    Treecycle pens aka Dallas has been PDG chatting advice and comments since I ditched my Triton gear and bought a super Hitachi Router to replace the Triton. That introduced the question of a new Router Table. There is a thread "Challenge to Create the Ideal Router table" 14 pages long full of advice comments and innovative ideas ...if you are like me and want it the table to be a practical means to use the Router upside down its a great thread. If you are a Cabinet maker ...different story. I'm just a retired Seafarer who would have been a cabinet maker if I hadn't gone to sea, still got the Seagrass stool I made as a 12 year old at secondary school in UK so my table is evolving as fairly basic .... Treecycle Pens aka Dallas has told me to put the makings on a thread ...so ... here goes.

    First off SWMBO controls the purse strings and, like any other devious Male I have various means of slipping the credit card here and there or embarrassing her by telling everyone I only get $5 pocket money per month. Generally I win ... but y'gotta be careful.

    So that apart I want the table according to my experience and wants. Most folk seem to think a through table height adjuster a must and my experience with the Triton modified my thoughts....I came across a video on You Tube which showed a tilting top, giving great access to the Router .. so why have a lifting device when easy access negates it. That generated the basic idea for my simple Router table.

    A trip to the local woodworker/builders premises produced a nice large 950 x 550 x 32mm MDF offcut already laminated with a light shade of laminate. Also gathered from them was a super offcut of powder coated Alloy Angle 75 x 50 to make the fence out of ...total cost $20.

    To make the base unit I got a 12mm 'Special' of double side sanded ply and 11 metres of 75 x 50mm dressed 'finger jointed' kiln dried and prepped pine. $75.

    The insert plate is 3mm Alloy cut to size by the engineering shop ... $18 ( twice as I stuffed up the first).

    I edged the MDF with Macrocarpa I had in the 'shop' this to stiffen the MDF and put a nice edge on the table ... 2 pot epoxied that. The insert plate and router opening was done and the Hitachi M12V offered up and screwed to the alloy insert plate ... all fits nicely.

    The last week I have dutifully taken SWMBO into town, The Quacks and Nelson to see our new born Granddaughter who arrived prematurely .... interrupting the morning's work on the table .... its called offering no resistance, Brownie Point gathering or just plain crawling. Needs must as I have a shopping list which actually needs money.

    Thus the base has taken time to get to assembly stage but we progress. Gluing the framework to take the Ply sides caused a few thoughts. Epoxy is my preferred sticky stuff but I bought a tube of 'Elephant'/ Gorrilla polyurethane stuff some time ago for a job. Weird stuff as it expands as it sets .... not my cuppa tea really but it has to be used so ... thats done the job under the constraints of cramps everywhere. Seems to have done the job ok. Has anyone else used the stuff??

    Yesterday I offered up and hinged the top to the base, tried the Hitachi in place to see if everything cleared which it does. At that point you ruddy Aussies shoved a whole mass of freezing cold wind, rain and SNOW over the South Island so I packed it in and retreated to the Coal Range.

    One thing I had contemplated was using gas struts from a car's window/boot lift to hold the table top in the raised position .... Boy! are they strong ... so I have given that idea away. Tried a super hatch stay in SS with a neat gizmo which locks open and by lifting the top a touch trips the latch allowing the lid to close ... too small unfortunately so a wooden prop seems simple, cheep and effective.

    I can now bolt the Hitachi in place to once again check and review how bih to make the cupboard which the rear supports have been cut and routered ready for as per photos ... they are not fixed in to allow the partitions to be adjusted to best suit.

    Thats where we are at for the time being...I will attach some pics to illustrate the job at present. Comments will be greatfully received, read and either rejected or inwardly digested and suitably regurgitated later as my ideas.

    David in Westport NZ....
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    I liked reading this post, it was like sitting down with a mate of mine and talking about tools and projects and tiring to get awa with spending's. O that's right I am single I win every time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opelblues2 View Post
    I liked reading this post, it was like sitting down with a mate of mine and talking about tools and projects and tiring to get awa with spending's. O that's right I am single I win every time
    Gee thanks for this Opelblues2 ..... shucks, there are editing and gramatical errors ... but I enjoyed writing it down, it helps too.

    I didn't mention that there is considerable cleaning up to be done, glue marks and such and I suppose I am 50% through. The fence is basically thought out its just a couple of decisions need to be made before I start cutting and boy do I hate cutting anything in the way of a nice piece of material...... it sure slows production down!

    Shopped around for an on off/ emergency stop switch this afternoon (after having done more "dutiful errands" for SWMBO and brownie points) .... not very successful here in Westport and the Carbatec phone in Auckland was u/s (par for the course with Aucklanders, think they have only just stopped using smoke signals .... because of the Greenies up there spouting Global Warming? ) so had to revert to e-mailing them to see about a Triton switch all same they use in their router table.

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    Default A bit further......

    Bolted the Hitachi M12V in this afternoon to test opening and shutting the table top, ease of adjusting router height, clearance and positioning of cupboard sides and any faults I had over looked.

    Had to drill the bolt holes first ....Measured up the plate for the bolts, centre punched the holes, put the drill in the big solid restored Tanner drill press and started her up .... just pulling for the first drilling and ...out went all the lights!! We are not averse to the odd car nudging a power pole here and there ...tree branches falling on power lines along with lightning zapping the supply... any of those events panics me and SWMBO into switching of the computers before the surge comes and blasts hell out of them. Duly did that, after a 30 metre sprint indoors from 'The Shed'. Tried a light switch to find the power on..... back to 'The Shed' flicked the power supply back on as the RCD had tripped, lights on ok ... switch on the Tanner ... out went all the lights
    Then it twigged ..... steeeyewpid boy!! the belt drive wheel at the rear of the tanner is unprotected ... one of those rainy day jobs!! The wheel had chafed through a dangling wire ...oh well at least it proved the worth of RCD's and has prioritised the adding of a hinged cover for the belt drive.

    With the Hitachi secured in position all seems ok .... changing bits is easy as its all accessible, fine adjustment is right to hand.

    Selected the best position for the side partions to the Hitachi, tomorrow I will router the slots for them and secure them in place.

    The best way of holding the table top open, after all my bright ideas comes down to a simple prop all same as a car bonnet. Safe and secure ...its either open wide or shut so I will now proceed with that .... KISS

    Having searched all the fancy Electrical provenders in town for safety stop switches yesterday and arrived at around $100 and not the best ideas I got an e-mail back from Carbatec in Auckland and they had one from the older Triton Power Saw bench at $55 and exactly what I wanted so thats on its way down.

    Took a couple of photos .... thats it for now.
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    Looking good David. Is that black knob on the right in the first photo for adjusting the depth or something else?
    Dallas

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    David, that older Triton switch is better than the new ones. Not in quality, but due to that the new ones have the green 'ON" button light up when power is connected to the switch. Just a waste of electrons imho. I have both the older and newer ones and prefer the older ones.
    A great table you have going there. One thing that has me curious, is the fixed fence. Would that not get in the way for some operations?
    Les

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    Default Little Black Knob ......

    Quote Originally Posted by Treecycle View Post
    Looking good David. Is that black knob on the right in the first photo for adjusting the depth or something else?
    Morning Dallas ... I will take a close up photo and describe properly what the little black knob does later in the day if thats ok? You are on the right track anyway.
    David

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    Default Triton Power Switch ....

    Quote Originally Posted by lesmeyer View Post
    David, that older Triton switch is better than the new ones. Not in quality, but due to that the new ones have the green 'ON" button light up when power is connected to the switch. Just a waste of electrons imho. I have both the older and newer ones and prefer the older ones.
    A great table you have going there. One thing that has me curious, is the fixed fence. Would that not get in the way for some operations?
    Les
    From one bloke in "The West" to another bloke in "The West" ...G'dday. Here, on the West Coast of the South Island we are variously called 'Feral' and 'Inbred' by a certain ex Prime Ministers but we like the term 'Coasters' ... no doubt you will be familiar with the problem? Thanks for your kind comments, my table does npot and will not have the beautiful finish of yours but, I'm enjoying myself which is part of the game as I am sure most will agree.

    Glad you tell me the switch is fine as its been bought sight unseen but with the experience of the Triton Router table which I thought was pretty good.

    The fence is just a piece of powder coated alloy angle which will become the fence Les, just placed for the photo. I'll put a couple of adjustable wood facings on it, cut some slots for bolts to slide in or maybe not and just use clamps on either side of the table as it seems a lot of chaps do.....work in progress in a space in my head where the brain is supposed to be.....comments on the pro's and con's welcome.

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    Looking good.

    Just a thought, the strut holding the top open, sooner or later the strut will get knocked, I would notch the bottom with a "V" cutout to make it more secure.

    You could use one of the toy box struts which cam over straight to have a form of locking strut should you be that way inclined ie lift with one hand, reach and cam the strut with the other, I have also seen a type which has a sliding ring which slips over the centre pivot point which is even more secure.
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    [QUOTE=Bob38S;1858512]Looking good.

    Just a thought, the strut holding the top open, sooner or later the strut will get knocked, I would notch the bottom with a "V" cutout to make it more secure.

    Thanks Bob ... that strut is just a handy bit of alloy of the right length 'just to hand'. It is not what I will eventually use But you have given me a thought .... we used to have a Chandlery shop full of all sorts of items you could use for uses they were never dreamt of for.... still got a few items and you have jogged my memory so I'll go out and have a look. A length of nice s/s pole/rod sliding in and out of a ring through which I can drill and use an "R" clip, the other end will utise a canopy fitting to hinge on....summat like that anyway.

    Good idea Bob ... watch for a photo.

    David

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    Default Little Black Knob ... doing what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Treecycle View Post
    Looking good David. Is that black knob on the right in the first photo for adjusting the depth or something else?
    OK Dallas ....attached is a close up photo of the depth setting Gizmo on the Hitachi M12V.

    I think you can work it out without me having to describe. Plung the router with the bit in down to touch the workpiece and let the depth stick down to the turret stop so you have a zero. Wind the knob up the amount you want to cut and lock it. Plunge away.

    Still collecting Brownie points most of the day (got to pay for the safety switch!) but have found the perfect prop to hold the table top up. ... needs only a little bit of work. A length of s/s pipe with a Canopy fitting on the end which will be screwed to the underside of the table. The Pipe slides neatly inside a yachting handrail fitting which needs a s/s bolt to attach it to the base of the table allowing it to swivel as the table top is lifted. In the 'Up' position I will slip an 'R' clip through a drilled hole.

    Photo tomorrow.

    David
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    Default Propping things up

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob38S View Post

    Just a thought, the strut holding the top open, sooner or later the strut will get knocked, ....................... I have also seen a type which has a sliding ring which slips over the centre pivot point which is even more secure.
    OK Bob ... here is what I have dug up from all our store of 'goodies' to make a 'prop for the table top when hinged upwards.... thanks to you jigging my thoughts.

    Nice length of s/s tube which will eventually be cropped to the length required to prop the table top very near vertical. It has a Canopy fitting at the lid end, to hinge on. I found a 'handrail' fitting which allows a nice sliding fit for the tube to locate in. The base I will drill and tab to take a suitable s/s bolt which will be located in the side to allow the action and clearance needed. In the open position there will be a 'R'' clip to slide in a drilled hole and thus prop everything up.

    Hope you can figure it out from the photo????

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    You are welcome.

    The proof will be in how it works out.
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    Default Propping up .....

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob38S View Post
    You are welcome.

    The proof will be in how it works out.
    I have drilled and tapped the sleeve which the s/s tube slides in and offered the prop up. The sleeve will rotate on the bolt to accept the angle as the table top is lifted. Problem is the length of the tube. Could be it will be too short to hold the top up at the angle I want it to be.

    I will also look at the same arrangement as a car bonnet prop. By folding the prop so it stows across the 3 compartments I get a decent length. I can easily put a chock with a socket for the prop to sit in .... simple and easy.

    Took yet another photo ....
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    Length of he tube....like a bonnet prop - I thought "hiding" the length could be a problem.

    Going back to the box / hatch stay idea, they are compact as when closed they are folded in half, only extending to full length when open, either cramming over centre or the sliding ring to lock the open. Running on memory here, some of the older English cars had this idea as a bonnet stay.

    For some other ideas check out the suppliers of toy box lid stays or a yacht chandlery for hatch stays.
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