Results 1 to 13 of 13
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Location
    Melbourne
    Posts
    11

    Default Jointing on the router table

    As I am new to woodworking I try to read lots to improve my knowledge.

    I read how to joint edges on the router table using shims on the outfeed fence.

    I duly inserted a straight bit, shimmed toe outfeed fence by 0.8mm using old credit cards and made as close to zero gap around the bit as I could.

    Using a piece of scrap I tried out this setup and found that the scrap kept butting into the outfeed fence.

    What am I doing wrong?

  2. # ADS
    Google Adsense Advertisement
    Join Date
    Always
    Location
    Advertising world
    Posts
    Many





     
  3. #2
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Bundaberg
    Age
    54
    Posts
    3,425

    Default

    First of all you need to ensure that both sides of the fence are parallel and co-planer.

    If this is correct and the work piece still hits the outfeed then you need to advance the cutter a bee's todger. It's ok for the cutter to be proud of the fence by a few thou.
    Nothing succeeds like a budgie without a beak.

  4. #3
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Murray Bridge SA
    Posts
    3,339

    Default

    WARNING This could be dangerous!!!!
    If and when, I NEED to do this, I run the timber between the cutter and the fence, from the opposite end to normal.
    This is only done on narrow pieces, not wide boards.
    This is not the preferred method, I know, as I said initially, it's on an as NEEDED basis, when nothing else is available.
    Kryn
    To grow old is mandatory, growing up is optional.

  5. #4
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Leopold, Victoria
    Age
    65
    Posts
    4,681

    Default

    If you used 0.8mm shim in the outfeed fence you need to have the cutter set so it is 0.8mm proud of the infeed fence. The cutter needs to be in line with the outfeed fence or even very slightly proud of it.

  6. #5
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Sydney Upper North Shore
    Posts
    4,467

    Default


  7. #6
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Albury
    Posts
    3,032

    Default

    The credit cards are thicker than 0.8mm.

  8. #7
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Location
    Melbourne
    Posts
    11

    Default

    Thanks for the replies.

    I measured the thickness of the particular credit cards I used with a digital caliper so I am confident of the thickness.

    I set the router bit to be in line with the outfeed fence using a steel ruler.

    I believe the fences to be parallel but who knows.

    I will try to make the cutter a littleproud of the fence and try again

  9. #8
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Leopold, Victoria
    Age
    65
    Posts
    4,681

    Default

    It would pay to check that your fence halves are parallel by removing the shim and place a straight edge across both of them. It won't work if they aren't.

  10. #9
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Location
    Canberra
    Posts
    5,124

    Default

    If you are feeling handy, you could make an imitation Incra Wonder Fence.

    Its split in the centre, allows a differing gap and uses a sliding offset to do the jointer thing.

    i do this all the time with a spiral carbide bit. It works very well indeed. I sold my jointer as I do this when needed... I never use timber more than 55mm thick, so it works well.

    I saw KB's suggestion and wouldn't recommend it at all. A small mistake and you've created a high powered linear accelerator, plus the bit is outwardly exposed. That gives me the severe willies! Routers are so massively powerful that you need to really play it very safe.

  11. #10
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Hobart
    Posts
    153

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by woodPixel View Post

    i do this all the time with a spiral carbide bit. It works very well indeed.
    Hi woodPixel

    Do you use an up cut or down cut bit? Does it make a difference which one?

    Cheers

  12. #11
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Warragul
    Age
    68
    Posts
    577

    Default

    Tiger, I use a flush trim bit which has a bearing at the top in perfect alignment with the cutters. I position the bit so its about 0.5mm in front of the infeed fence. I then loosen the outfeed fence and with the use of a straight steel ruler running against the outfeed fence I push until the ruler hits the bearing. As a check I run the ruler towards the bearing from the outfeed side and make sure it just hits it enough to make the bearing spin. I get perfect results each time except when I don't concentrate and push the timber towards the bit instead of straight at the end. That bearing makes all the difference to getting that crucial alignment on the outfeed side. Do you have a flush trim bit?

  13. #12
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Location
    Canberra
    Posts
    5,124

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeJ View Post
    Do you use an up cut or down cut bit? Does it make a difference which one?
    For the router table I've always used upcuts for spiral work.

    My thinking (and what I've been told) is the upcut bit pulls the timber down to the table. If one were to use a downcut, the bit would be trying to lift the work up. Now, I don't know how true this is, or how dramatic the effect might be, but it makes sense.

    The downcuts are reserved for dado work (boxes, displays, etc).

    I do a lot of work on that router table and other than the exceedingly rare part-flinging launch, I've had no accidents.

    I have a few of the regular bearing style cutters but the spirals are absolutely superior.

  14. #13
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Albury
    Posts
    3,032

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by woodPixel View Post
    If one were to use a downcut the bit would be trying to lift the work up. Now, I don't know how true this is, or how dramatic the effect might be, but it makes sense.
    It's true and the lifting force can be quite dramatic with any of the larger diameter bits. Maintaining control over the stock is an absolute necessity.

Similar Threads

  1. Router table for jointing?
    By Humphrey9999 in forum ROUTING FORUM
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 1st March 2013, 01:35 PM
  2. Finger Jointing Jig for Triton Router Table.
    By Geekgirl in forum HOMEMADE TOOLS AND JIGS ETC.
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 26th July 2012, 03:41 AM
  3. Jointing with a router
    By rhys55 in forum WOODWORK - GENERAL
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 14th September 2008, 02:20 PM
  4. Jointing on router table - version II
    By niki in forum HOMEMADE TOOLS AND JIGS ETC.
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 21st April 2007, 08:43 AM
  5. Jointing on router table
    By niki in forum HOMEMADE TOOLS AND JIGS ETC.
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 15th March 2007, 08:17 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •