Thread: Router Motor

Originally Posted by dalejw

The Huan Yang vfd's seem ubiquitous at this price point.

FWIW I have 8 HuanYangs (2, 3, 4 and 5HP) on machines in my shed.
The oldest is now 6 years old and still going strong.
There are two kinds available, senseless vector and non-vector drive.
The non vector drive power is proportional to frequency/speed .
The sensorless vector drives cost a bit more but have more power/torque below 50 Hz.
It's not a linear relationship but at about 15 Hz they about twice the power output capability of the non vector type VFD.
All my Huanyangs are non-vector.
My MW lathe has a vector drive on it but it is not a Huanyang.
I also have a 7.5HP Honeywell 3P-3P VFD that is a vector drive.

After this topic came up I decided to change my "loud as hell, vacuum cleaner motor" router into this,
2.2KW Air-cooled Spindle motor ER20 & 2.2KW Inverter VFD 220V For CNC Router CN | eBay

Be aware that on my masterlift 2 I could not find any positions on the clamps to take it. It will need to be shimmed. I bought a 80mm Diameter Aluminum CNC Spindle Motor Mount Bracket Clamp +3pcs Screws | eBay and machined it down. I also made a external switchbox so I can have nice big buttons to turn it on and off, mounted on the front of my router table and the inverter is on the back under the outfeed table where I hope it will be semi protected from dust. Nice thing is the fan blows up so dust will not get sucked in from the top.

So much better using this, just runs quite. Collet is 100% easier to undo too.

Thanks guys. That's great news.

Lift is now ordered. Going to have a look for VFD's and motors today. I'm tempted to go for a 3kw spindle and drive but it's probably overkill. I don't have any really big bits and have a 4kw spindle moulder anyway.

I'm really looking forward to moving on from the Triton. Even in the Woodpeckers plate with the Router Raizer kit it was pretty fiddly to change bits and set heights. No problem when it was just a hobby but these days when I'm changing things many times a day, every day it's driving me a bit mental.

Just as a follow up. The spindle arrived and fitted neatly into the Jessem master lift ii on it's smallest setting shimmed out with some 0.9mm aluminum I had laying around. Really easy fit with the carriage spread a little bit and the ally tapped in with a drift. When the tension was released and it clamped down there was no binding of the lift screw so I'm pretty confident it's all in alignment and 0.9 is the right shim size.

Still setting things up and need to mount the vfd but it's so quiet and smooth. It's a thing of beauty for sure.

I have always thought this was the way to go, best of luck with it.

Originally Posted by Chris Parks

I have always thought this was the way to go, best of luck with it.

Thanks for the headsup mate. Wouldn't be here without you doing the preliminary work [emoji106]

Here is my over complex solution. Stupid OCD...

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That spacer ring was this before it met my lathe.
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dalejw, when its up and running, would you mind posting your complete solution?

I was using the Triton TRA001 undertable today for some boxes and regretted deeply selling the Timbecon lifer!

Dale, if it is not rude question what did it all cost?

Will do woodpixel. I'm about to smash the balls off the setup for a couple of weeks as I've got a lot of template work to do so I should have a better idea about how it's all going to work. Seems markdem has been running it for a bit though.

Not a rude question Chris.

Lift was $550 + $40 delivery to WA + $45 for the Tab Loc inserts.

I paid $579 AUD for the 2.2kw Spindle, VFD, clamp (which I'm not using) and the collet set off ebay from an Australian supplier. I could have probably saved $100 off this price ordering it from china but couldn't find anywhere with a reasonable shipping time and I needed it quickly. The Triton is eating brushes and I'm just waiting for it to die which is not something I need at the moment .

The only other expense was the shielded VFD cable which was about $3 a meter from a local cable supplier.

Yep, that's sort of the figure I had in mind, thanks.

It's not a million miles away from the $720 you'd spend on a triton router and a woodpeckers plate.

Originally Posted by dalejw

It's not a million miles away from the $720 you'd spend on a triton router and a woodpeckers plate.

Yes, I wish I had started asking questions two years ago when it first occurred to me.

Quick shot of the setup as it stands. Still to add stop and start buttons to the front of the router table panel and a load of other refinements but for now it's in and it works.

Was going to mount the VFD hidden away but don't mind it there. It's away from the dust and easy to adjust. It's also a reminder that the bloody thing is on. It's actually so quiet it's disconcerting. I work with a set of bose noise cancelling headphones and it's inaudible when wearing them. I ran a load of rebates today and left the machine running accidentally without realizing for probably half an hour.

I hadn't realized how bad the triton had become. This is so smooth and doesn't bog down like the triton used to.

So far so good [emoji106]