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  1. #1
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    Default Simple router lift on a Ryobi

    Firstly, credit for the idea goes to this guy. Ultra-cheap router lift

    I applied this idea to my Ryobi ert241200 plunge router.

    This old router has been in my table for a while, but the lift mechanism was a bit crap really, and there were other issues.
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    1. Becuase it was upside down, and the posts are hollow, Dust was getting into the posts , and was building up inside the body, stopping the posts from going all the way home. It had gotten to the point that I had lost about 20mm of travel, and could no longer get a spanner onto the collet form above the table.

    2. The throat of the base on the etr241200 is only about 38mm, so couldn't fit some of decent size bits into it.

    So I stripped it all down to fix some problems.

    I enlarged the throat to about 55mm.

    I used a 100mm m6 furniture bolt to do the raising, and I put a threaded insert into the old depth stop hold to grab it.
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    I removed the old depth stop plastic thing on the base, and drilled through where the spring and ball bearing were hidden, to let the bolt reach through. A little bit of a tidy up with a dremmel and the bolt head sits nicely in the base.

    2013-09-08 16.05.51.jpg

    I also put some tape over the open end of the posts, so that dust won't fill them up again.


    2013-09-08 16.33.52.jpg

    Now I can raise or lower it from above. An allen key for normal adjustments, and a drill for raising it right to the top for changing bits.

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    I just need to add a thumb wheel onto the shaft of the screw, so I can make small adjustments even when the router fence is over the top of the adjustment hole.

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    Incredibly simple - I like it!!! The best ideas are the simplest ones.

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    Incredibly simple

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    KISS, I think I might see if this will work on my B&D router. Thanks
    Regards Rumnut.

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    Qld. Australia.

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    As everyone else has said simple

    Never crossed my mind to use a threaded insert.

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    Looks like a fairly neat solution, but is the threaded insert an alloy one? If so I would keep an eye on it as power driving a steel scew through it frequently would be likely to cause the insert female threads to wear rapidly, particularly given the potentially dusty environment that it operates in.

    If the plunge lock is functional, you might be able to raise the router manually (including letting the connector bolt rise through the table) and clamp it in place with the plunge lock for bit changes, then lower it back by releasing the plunge lock and manual lowering and adjusting the connector bolt for the next cutting height. This would largely eliminate power driving the screw against the weight of the router and the attendant wear.
    I used to be an engineer, I'm not an engineer any more, but on the really good days I can remember when I was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malb View Post
    Looks like a fairly neat solution, but is the threaded insert an alloy one? If so I would keep an eye on it as power driving a steel scew through it frequently would be likely to cause the insert female threads to wear rapidly, particularly given the potentially dusty environment that it operates in.

    If the plunge lock is functional, you might be able to raise the router manually (including letting the connector bolt rise through the table) and clamp it in place with the plunge lock for bit changes, then lower it back by releasing the plunge lock and manual lowering and adjusting the connector bolt for the next cutting height. This would largely eliminate power driving the screw against the weight of the router and the attendant wear.
    The bolt head is under the router plate Mal. The hole is only just big enough for the driver bit.
    Those were the droids I was looking for.
    https://autoblastgates.com.au

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    Gee, NCA your right, theres a big difference between looking at the pic on a 10in netbook without glasses and looking at it on a 21in panel with the specs. so either the idea is useless or the hole in the table and insert ring could be enlarged.

    However I suspect that my warning about power driving a steel screw through an alloy nut might be valid.
    I used to be an engineer, I'm not an engineer any more, but on the really good days I can remember when I was.

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    Maybe the diameter of the bolt head could be reduced and the hole in the table opened up a little so it can go through without having to make an enormous hole. As said earlier, that would allow the router to be lifted up manually for bit changing which makes it a lot quicker, with less wear and tear on the threaded bits.
    Still, in the present state, a smart idea.

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    To be honest, if you wear out the insert, whack another one in. Good job.
    Those were the droids I was looking for.
    https://autoblastgates.com.au

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oddy View Post
    Incredibly simple - I like it!!! The best ideas are the simplest ones.


    (you stole my line)
    The person who never made a mistake never made anything

    Cheers
    Ray

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