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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by fdecaria
    By the way, using the old brushes it still starts and stops, starts and stops.
    It sounds to me as though it may have stalled (come to a temporary but total stop due to feed rate overcoming the available power). If that IS the case, then replacing the brushes will not improve your situation, because a stall will fry segments of the field windings.

    When it stops, switch off, rotate the shaft by a small amount, switch on. If it runs, field windings are shot - machine is a door stop only. Send it back for warranty repair if applicable.

    Ray

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    Quote Originally Posted by rayintheuk View Post
    It sounds to me as though it may have stalled (come to a temporary but total stop due to feed rate overcoming the available power). If that IS the case, then replacing the brushes will not improve your situation, because a stall will fry segments of the field windings.

    When it stops, switch off, rotate the shaft by a small amount, switch on. If it runs, field windings are shot - machine is a door stop only. Send it back for warranty repair if applicable.

    Ray
    It does not stop, it powers up then powers down with green sparks shooting across the top of the unit under the air vent speed controller.

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    If this is a recent buy (and forgive me I've not gone back to reread the thread) then take it back to the retailer as a DOA (Dead on arrival) and they should give you a replacement on the spot.
    Cheers, Ern

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsser View Post
    If this is a recent buy (and forgive me I've not gone back to reread the thread) then take it back to the retailer as a DOA (Dead on arrival) and they should give you a replacement on the spot.
    Not a DOA. Sat in the shed for a long time, and decided to use it for the first time. Mate it lasted 10 min out of the hour I was working. Have sent an email to Triton indicating my dissappointment with there product. If I dont here back, I will spend 4 times that amount and buy quality. I thought triton was the gun!

  6. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by fdecaria
    I was rebating a piece of 25mm mdf on the router table when I could see arcing around the carbon brush area and was starting and stopping.
    I took the time to re-read the above quote from the OP and it doesn't altogether sound right to me. Previously, I had naturally assumed that the router was being used inverted, otherwise why mention that the work was taking place "on the router table"?

    However, if it was being so used, how on Earth were sparks visible from above, as the brush carriers are nearly the lowest point of an inverted router? If the router was being used hand-held (and there's no reason not to do so), the sparks would then have been visible, without doubt.

    Either way, I've easily cut 40mm worktops with my MOF001, but using many more, much smaller, passes than I would with my TRA001, for obvious reasons (to me, at least).

    What we've not been told is how much of a rebate was being attempted and how big a bite was being taken - both of which, I believe, are contributing factors to what is most likely stall damage (OK, I'll say it - "pilot error" IMO) to the field windings.

    You just can't take big bites with a small router, however new it is and field winding damage does not occur on an unused machine, so "taking it back to the retailer as a DOA" would have failed immediately.

    I know I wasn't there, but my experience of (and with) these routers will always suggest to me the conclusion I've outlined above - nothing personal, just a statistical fact.

    Ray

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    OnlineToolReviews.com - Triton TRC001 3.25HP Router Review

    The above web site shows you how to remove the spring.

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    It is true, I might have taken to much of a bite. I removed the router from the table and thats when I discovered the green flashes.

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    I had the same problem with my 1400 Triton that is table mounted. The cause was the cap that holds the brushes had vibrated loose, replaced both brushes and caps about 12 months ago.......Problem Solved............AL
    If your not confused you dont know whats going on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 46150 View Post
    I had the same problem with my 1400 Triton that is table mounted. The cause was the cap that holds the brushes had vibrated loose, replaced both brushes and caps about 12 months ago.......Problem Solved............AL
    Where did you buy the brushes?

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    You know what, I have been thinking that if a 1400 Watt router cannot remove a 10mmx10mm bit of MDF, Well I must be in the wrong trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fdecaria
    You know what, I have been thinking that if a 1400 Watt router cannot remove a 10mmx10mm bit of MDF, Well I must be in the wrong trade.
    Possibly, but it's not only the amount attempted to be removed, it's the feed rate too. You can stall any router if you feed too fast.

    Ray

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    Default Benefit of the doubt

    Decided to purchase the 2400 watt Triton router. Who knows who was at fault, but now I have a great looking 1400 watt Triton router as a door stop.

  14. #43
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    Default Router Selection

    Look for brand name router with both 1/2" and 1/4" collets. Plunge is fine and will do everything fixed base will do. Fixed base will be cheaper but also a bit less useful once it is out of the table (i.e making inlays etc.)

    Make sure you know the warranty and WHAT the warrant entails. Sometimes YOU have to send it back at YOUR expense. Where is the service depot and what sort of turnaround to they give. Routers are bit more temperamental than some tools so be selective. It's a good idea to ask the tough questions ... it's your money.

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    Default Re: Suggestions for a router

    I wonder what krittgers ended up buying.

    By the way I had the same sparking and starting and stopping on my TRA001 some time back - after I had replaced the collet. A trip to the router doctor in Geelong and $15 later all fixed. I think the brushes were not correctly seated. i use it infrequently as I don't really do much on the router table.

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