Thread: triton router

Hi Mark, sad to hear that, FYI I just tested my smaller Triton router, I measured the run out on a few random bits, dial gauge pointer at the bit top bearing, run out was between 0.03mm to 0.05mm. Never measured it before because I have never felt any vibration in the table.

Mike.

Question so I can understand where you were measuring.
It was on a bearing on a router bit fitted into the router.
Could it have been the bearing that wasn't on.
Would it have been better to mount say a drill bit and measure the run-out of it.
That way would have taken the bearing out of the equation.
Sorry to hear of your problems.
Lyle

Hi Lyle the router was a good quality mutli profile bit made by cmt , used for creating mouldings around furniture , it has a bearing on the end which can be used on work that is for example on a curved edge. The beauty of using a router bit with a guide bearing to test the run out you can easly check the run out around a 360 degs where as using a cutter that only has cutting edges protruding is much difficult to measure with a dial indicator. I hope this clears up question. Thank you.

.3mm runout and 12,000rpm would just about shake the fillings out of your teeth! Was the problem in the chuck or was it the shaft itself that was out of true? I guess it could be hard to check the chuck and checking the shaft itself could be awkward. Even more awkward as the machine went back for a refund.
Anyway, thanks for the "heads-up", it's starting to look like Triton is having problems with quality control, or the lack of it.

Hi old hilly the problem was with the collet it wasn't locating the cutter shaft accurately and as I said I tried the same cutter in my dewalt router with out a problem , poor design or just faulty manufacturing or just both. cheers

So Triton spend a heap of money developing a machine, a really innovative and unique machine, have it assembled somewhere, probably China but there are other places, and then stuff it all up by fitting a cheap, low spec collet and not do enough quality control. I guess that they will probably be under new ownership (again) in another couple of years. Just looking at their product range the router was about the best thing they had going. Their workcenter looked flimsy and expensive, their circular saw was nothing fantastic and in general things seemed to be overpriced compared to the other players in the game. Sad, really.

Take it back! It's under warranty

FYI I measured run out at the bit bearing as this is where the OP said he measured it, and for the reasons he gave, any fault in the bit would have followed that bit - it didn't.

1. Obviously any run out error at the collet would be magnified by the length of the bit when measured at the bearing at the end of the bit.

2. Obviously any run out in the bit shaft / bearings would make it difficult to measure actual router run out.

I have a very high quality planing bit with a stainless steel shaft, the run out measured at the base of that bit (just above the collet) was less than 0.01mm on my smaller triton. It may have been even less but I could not quite secure the dial indicator to the table with enough precision to accurately remove any slight movement of the router lift / mounting.

If you are interested in router run out, this site has some excellent information:

Collets, Nuts and Toolholders Click "tutorials"
Types of Total Indicated Runout (TIR)
especially Measuring spindle runout


If you are using a table mounted router, you must get this number as low as you possibly can. It makes a huge difference.

I spent a lot of time getting mine to less than a thou and it makes the whole routing process absolutely beautiful.

There is absolutely no vibration in my table, so I think 0.0003 of an inch (static) will do me until it dies, at that time I'll replace it with a CNC motor, quality collet set and VFD.

Yes, it would be really disappointing for marcos to have had that much vibration with his new Triton - now returned and refunded.

I did that barri I took it back two days later and got a refund.

Originally Posted by woodPixel

If you are using a table mounted router, you must get this number as low as you possibly can. It makes a huge difference.

I spent a lot of time getting mine to less than a thou and it makes the whole routing process absolutely beautiful.

What did you do to yours to get the runout closer to zero

Barri and marcos, I was going to buy one to replace the routers lost in the house/workshop fire earlier in the year. I had an earlier model that was fine apart for a dirty speed control potentiometer (poor dustproofing) that sometimes caused problems but as the router was under a table I was going to bypass that control and mount one externally. The more I read about the "new" Triton machines in general the less I like them. It seems the new owners are not doing things as well as the old owners did them. They have more products but less quality control, or so it seems. I need to look for something else. I never had a "plan B". Now I need one.