Thread: Dust Collection Install - WIP

Congrats on being one of the DIY that bothers to install their DC before they fill up their shed with dust.

It looks like you have it all under control.

I have no opinion on those machines as they appear to be all the same.
However the needle get bags MAY not be the same.
There seems to be two kinds of bags around Thick and Thin.
I'd go for the thicker ones as the Thinner ones take more than twice a long to condition - meantime they are letting some fine dust out.

Hi,

Yep agree with Bob, all three machines are fairly similar, each of the machines are essentially manufactured to the stores specifications, so where one will cut corner here another will cut corners elsewhere.

To help you decide here is my thoughts on each of the brands.

Leda: Generally good fit/finish however generally on the pricey side
Machinery house: What's on the showroom floor may be the best one they have from my experience is no surprise to the shop when you get the package home to find that the quality is abit hit and miss.
Sherwood: Similar quality to Machinery house stuff, but find you get better service in the event things are not up to scratch.

All the best with the setup.

Thanks for the comments and advice, I will probably go with the Leda machine as they are conveniently located pretty close to me.

Not too much progress on the dust extraction fit out but I have finally paved around the back of the shed (photo) ready for an enclosure to be built.
i have a collection of 150mm stormwater fittings coming from WA, believe it or not for the quantity I wanted it was still cheaper to pay for shipping from pipeonline.com.au than to buy them locally.
I have also sourced some clamps to hold the flexy to the 150mm stormwater pipe. I really need to get onto building some blast gates also!

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Wow! Tight squeeze. What's the gap - 900mm (7 bricks)? You will need access from both ends of the enclosure if it's going into a small space like that.

Yeah I think it's just under 1m, so yes, two doors.
I think it's going to have to be fairly well insulated, any recommendations on insulation options to give a reasonable acoustic improvement?

I have good relationships with my neighbours and luckily the back fence is actually one of the neighbours sheds so hopefully the noise won't be too much of a problem!

Originally Posted by heybluey

. . , any recommendations on insulation options to give a reasonable acoustic improvement?

You'll need two kinds - dense/heavy and dense/light. Dense mattress foam (not the light stuff) works well.
Bunnings acoustical rockwool is better than nothing.

In terms of sound insulating:

dense/heavy material can be anything like gyprock sheets, mass loaded vinyl, sealed wood
Dense/light is insulation material, specifically accoustic insulation. You can get this from specialist insulation stores, music shops, specialist home theatre shops etc.

The idea being you want the heavy stuff on the outside to bounce the sound back into the enclosure, and the light stuff dissipates the sound waves.

Also make sure your enclosure is air tight (other than the vent), so caulk/tape all joints.

Finally take into account how noisy your machinery is, IMO no point spending heaps insulating your dust extractor if everything else inside the shed makes more noise than the dust extractor.

So I haven't purchased a dust extractor or built an enclosure yet but I have made some progress on the ducting inside the shed.
Obviously plenty still to be done, I have only put some temporary supports in for now and I haven't made any blast gates yet. I've also got another two arms to install off the main branch line.
Until next weekend...

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Definitely jealous of the amount of space you have!

I'd definitely recommend making blast gates before you go any further, depending on the design you end up going with they can add a reasonable amount of length to where ever they are attached, so if you have already cut everything to the finalised dimension you may very well end up with lots of small cut offs of pvc.

Originally Posted by tonzeyd

Definitely jealous of the amount of space you have!
I'd definitely recommend making blast gates before you go any further, depending on the design you end up going with they can add a reasonable amount of length to where ever they are attached, so if you have already cut everything to the finalised dimension you may very well end up with lots of small cut offs of pvc.

Good point and not just the length complications but they should go immediately after the arms leave the trunk line and not down at the machine. Inserting them afterwards can mean dismantling large sections of the system.

Yeah I'll be honest I have been putting off the blast gates but the time has now come.
Time to practice my circle cutting. Also, what is the best glue for PVC to MDF?

A photo of the last two arms off the trunk line which I managed to get done today.

Nothing is actually attached yet, it's all just hanging and sitting. I will utilise the 300 mm lengths of pipe coming off the Y joiners to make the blast gates in the majority of cases.




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Just like power points you cannot have too many Y's (especially in the middle of the shed), even if you never use them.

I'd put Y's at the points marked X and Y and just cap them - that way later you can later add blast gate and then hook power tools or other machines to them.

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I was thinking the same thing Bob so I will include another few Y joints after I get all the blast gates built and everything set in its "final" place.

I have had a look through the blast gate gallery and will definitely be going with some of the ideas in there.
Can anybody give me any guidance on the adhesives they have used to bond pvc pipe to MDF? I'm assuming regular PVC cement won't work very well...

Any kind of construction adhesive works fine.

I've used liquid nails and epoxy in the past, but thats mostly because thats what i've got lying around.

I find the trick is to make the join tight fitting that way you can jam the fitting in there and the adhesive is more of a backup.

Definitely don't use pvc cement, that stuff is for pvc to pvc only