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    What Bob said.

    I'm not trying to be annoying or condescending here, but a question I always ask myself when modifying equipment is this, why did the manufacture fit an NVR, or any other item that I plan to remove or bypass? Often times it turns out to be a question of safety or to meet mandated safety rules.

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    Bob, I've survived more than 40 years in the building industry without NVR switches on anything I use. When you don't have these things, that make you think like the machine, you don't put your body parts anywhere in a machine unless it's unplugged - it becomes as natural as breathing.

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    I'm reading this thread with some envy - my dog ate my NVR switch, and I need a new one.

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    I DO appreciate safety and advice from others with far better knowledge.

    But does that mean that every time I want to turn the dusty on I need to go outside the workshop to the enclosure, unbolt the doors, turn it on, rebolt the doors (if not, what's the use of soundproofing the enclosure), go back inside and use whatever tools. The do it all again in reverse to turn it off? Or am I really missing something here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Picko View Post
    Bob, I've survived more than 40 years in the building industry without NVR switches on anything I use. When you don't have these things, that make you think like the machine, you don't put your body parts anywhere in a machine unless it's unplugged - it becomes as natural as breathing.
    That's what my dads mate used to say - he too had 50+ years in cabinet making with nothing significant happening to him during that time apart from a few splinters. He was tidying up the workshop at the end of the day before he retired, gathering up some offcuts and was cutting them up with the table saw - I won't go into detail, but lets just say he lost 3 fingers and spent his first four months of retirement wiping his behind with his non-preferred hand.

    And lets face it, how many folks on these forums will have 40 years experience?
    If I cut any corners I tend to keep it to myself.

    Comparisons on accident rates between DIYers and professional make very interesting reading

    In a large study done back in the 1990s proportionately more professionals were found to have suffered injuries than amateurs for the following machines/tools
    Table saws, bandsaws, circular saws, routers, portable drills and chisels.

    Amateurs have proportionately more injuries using Drill presses.

    Amateurs and Pros have about the same injuries for RAS, Jointer planers and hammers.

    If the pros were so "natural" then surely they should have lower injury rates.
    Of course Pros do have lower injury rates if time spent on tools/machines is taken into account but they still get bitten and probably more than they are willing to admit.

    It would be interesting to repeat that study today because there are a lot more amateurs with machinery around,

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovetoride View Post
    I DO appreciate safety and advice from others with far better knowledge.

    But does that mean that every time I want to turn the dusty on I need to go outside the workshop to the enclosure, unbolt the doors, turn it on, rebolt the doors (if not, what's the use of soundproofing the enclosure), go back inside and use whatever tools. The do it all again in reverse to turn it off? Or am I really missing something here?
    No - your sparky should be able to just extend the cable between the switch and the motor so you can turn it on inside the shed,

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    Hi Jane, I agree with Bob, take a look at these pics, it took me about an hour.
    Cheers
    Edit: with a bit more effort your sparky could arrange the set up so the conduit is hidden behind the wall of your shed, instead of exposed like mine is.
    Last edited by mase; 6th May 2017 at 09:10 AM. Reason: add info

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    I think Jane is concerned with the Wires Of Mystery.

    My little 2hp is the same, too many wires. I'll leave it to the professionals.

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