Thread: Got the Saw, Jointer/Thicknesser and now need the DC

An enclosure doesn't need to take up a big space. If you only wanted space for the extractor an area 1400 x 800 would be sufficient With my Cleaview cabinet I was able to get it, 4metres of 10" acoustic HVAC exhausting through the roof, a compressor and a shop vac with a Dust Deputy attached into an area 900mm x 2000mm and 2360mm high.

I used 70mm x 35mm pine studs with plaster sheets on the inside and 16mm MDF outside with acoustic batts between. This was good enough to reduce the decibel reading from 92db to to 69 with all blast gates closed and 74db with one open.

In my previous workshop I did not have an enclosure, just some acoustic around the impeller and a muffler similar to the Corrrimal mens shed. I never ran the extractor with more than 50hz because it was just too loud to be pleasant to work in the shop. I now run it at 60hz without any dramas at all.

As a standalone cyclone filter- 3HP - would this be significantly different in performance from the Jet I was looking at. Only concern I have is the ports seem to be 4" give or take. In looking at the unit it appears they are bolted/ rivetted onto the unit as a one piece so may be able to be removed. Is that the 200mm dust port they are referring to..

3HP Carbatec https://www.carbatec.co.nz/product/5...e-dust-cyclone
2HP Jet https://www.carbatec.co.nz/product/8...dust-extractor

Thanks again

I wouldn't recommend that carbatech cyclone. A friend of mine has one and he is pretty disappointed in its performance and given how expensive it is he regrets not buying a Clearvue. Its an old design and is far from optimised for air flow performance. From what I could tell a standard 3HP with twin bags should perform better than that cyclone at least for the first couple of hours of constant use while the bags are not clogged and being twin bagged it would be able to hold much more saw dust. OTOH if you are stumped for room you may not have that much of choice.

Okay. Thanks for that Bob..Strike another one So.. Given the limitations of my setup which primarily are internally located, max height of 2.3m, can't directly vent externally so needs to run through a filter & noise ( to an extent ) & $ budget ( to an extent ) I'm back at the Jet with a pleated filter and using it on one machine at a time - but the flow rate of it likely won't capture the fine dust ? Clearvue is not an option - I've looked at it and size is tight + price including shipping was likely to be circa 8k NZ+ so out of the ones I do have access to via carbatec and machinery house etc what would you place your money on thanks.

Originally Posted by Gedc

Okay. Thanks for that Bob..Strike another one So.. Given the limitations of my setup which primarily are internally located, max height of 2.3m, can't directly vent externally so needs to run through a filter & noise ( to an extent ) & $ budget ( to an extent ) I'm back at the Jet with a pleated filter and using it on one machine at a time - but the flow rate of it likely won't capture the fine dust ? Clearvue is not an option - I've looked at it and size is tight + price including shipping was likely to be circa 8k NZ+ so out of the ones I do have access to via carbatec and machinery house etc what would you place your money on thanks.

I don't know a heap about them, but have you looked at the Felder RL160 or RL200? Given that the Hammer was priced well over there so might these. I don't have any first hand experience but have read that these work very well and the filtration is very effective. Might be a little large, but you wouldn't need the height or to build a cabinet etc. Maybe worth a look / some investigation.

Cheers,

Dom

Waiting on a price as Jacks - local supplier doesn't like to put anything up in catalogs or online. I am thinking the smaller version the RL125 will be too expensive - might be wrong - my guess for the RL160 would be close to $7k to $8k Kiwi.

Did you try to get ahold of Muchacho? He like many New Zealander’s have been through it before and may be able to help and he does have that fiberglass version of the Pentz cyclone.

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3HP Carbatec [URL]https://www.carbatec.co.nz/product/5817-3hp-carba-tec-two-stage-dust-cyclone[/URL]


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Makes the Cleavue look like an absolute bargain!

Originally Posted by Gedc

Waiting on a price as Jacks - local supplier doesn't like to put anything up in catalogs or online. I am thinking the smaller version the RL125 will be too expensive - might be wrong - my guess for the RL160 would be close to $7k to $8k Kiwi.

I have visited Muchacho's workshop and his cyclone is amazing. I would have bought it from him, get in touch with Muchacho if you can. he is in Auckland.

The CT cyclone is what got me involved in Clearvue. It was so bad I literally ran it for less than five minutes and then walked inside and rang Clearvue in the US to buy one. During that time of buying I became the agent in Oz & NZ.

I suppose everyone thinks I am looney and lost my marbles when I suggest making one out of MDF but I am serious and I reckon for the cost of most probably under a hundred dollars it would be worth a go. Also 2.3 metres should be enough with a shorter but wider custom made container under it.

I don’t think you are looney Chris. Most anything that can be shaped could be used. Bending plywood, Masonite plus most of the sheet plastics and metal or staved like a barrel with solid wood. We are woodworkers, sort of, so why not use mdf or anything else in our material pile?

Originally Posted by Albert

I have visited Muchacho's workshop and his cyclone is amazing. I would have bought it from him, get in touch with Muchacho if you can. he is in Auckland.

I have visited Muchacho as well. Awesome cyclone and you cannot get anything remotely comparable for the price in NZ. I too would have bought it but it didn't quite fit under 1.95m

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See post #5. Applies to any NZ woodie.