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29th June 2018, 05:29 PM #16GOLD MEMBER
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Build your own would be my suggestion. All the plans are on Bill Pentz's web site and I reckon you could build one out of 3MM mdf for the cyclone itself. I would paint the inside of the cylinder with two pack epoxy or fibreglass resin to protect it from debris eroding that walls, buy an impeller from CV and the Teco motor can be sourced locally. Wet the mdf and roll it after cutting the sheet as needed, assemble the top of the cylinder and join the top to the bottom with using fibreglass mat. I have suggested this before but no one has taken it on but I can't see any downfalls myself. If it gets punctured which I think is highly unlikely then push it back into shape and fibreglass the repair.
When I was the CV distributor I had several inquiries from NZ and proposed drop shipping to NZ ex the USA as the best way to do it. I actually sold four Maxes to a company in Mongolia that way but never one to NZ unfortunately. I also looked at leaving one cyclone in the country as stock but I gave it up about that time due to retirement.CHRIS
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30th June 2018, 06:17 PM #17SENIOR MEMBER
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An enclosure doesn't need to take up a big space. If you only wanted space for the extractor an area 1400 x 800 would be sufficient With my Cleaview cabinet I was able to get it, 4metres of 10" acoustic HVAC exhausting through the roof, a compressor and a shop vac with a Dust Deputy attached into an area 900mm x 2000mm and 2360mm high.
I used 70mm x 35mm pine studs with plaster sheets on the inside and 16mm MDF outside with acoustic batts between. This was good enough to reduce the decibel reading from 92db to to 69 with all blast gates closed and 74db with one open.
In my previous workshop I did not have an enclosure, just some acoustic around the impeller and a muffler similar to the Corrrimal mens shed. I never ran the extractor with more than 50hz because it was just too loud to be pleasant to work in the shop. I now run it at 60hz without any dramas at all.
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1st July 2018, 01:45 PM #18Intermediate Member
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As a standalone cyclone filter- 3HP - would this be significantly different in performance from the Jet I was looking at. Only concern I have is the ports seem to be 4" give or take. In looking at the unit it appears they are bolted/ rivetted onto the unit as a one piece so may be able to be removed. Is that the 200mm dust port they are referring to..
3HP Carbatec https://www.carbatec.co.nz/product/5...e-dust-cyclone
2HP Jet https://www.carbatec.co.nz/product/8...dust-extractor
Thanks again
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1st July 2018, 02:00 PM #19.
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I wouldn't recommend that carbatech cyclone. A friend of mine has one and he is pretty disappointed in its performance and given how expensive it is he regrets not buying a Clearvue. Its an old design and is far from optimised for air flow performance. From what I could tell a standard 3HP with twin bags should perform better than that cyclone at least for the first couple of hours of constant use while the bags are not clogged and being twin bagged it would be able to hold much more saw dust. OTOH if you are stumped for room you may not have that much of choice.
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1st July 2018, 02:42 PM #20Intermediate Member
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Okay. Thanks for that Bob..Strike another one So.. Given the limitations of my setup which primarily are internally located, max height of 2.3m, can't directly vent externally so needs to run through a filter & noise ( to an extent ) & $ budget ( to an extent ) I'm back at the Jet with a pleated filter and using it on one machine at a time - but the flow rate of it likely won't capture the fine dust ? Clearvue is not an option - I've looked at it and size is tight + price including shipping was likely to be circa 8k NZ+ so out of the ones I do have access to via carbatec and machinery house etc what would you place your money on thanks.
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1st July 2018, 03:05 PM #21GOLD MEMBER
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I don't know a heap about them, but have you looked at the Felder RL160 or RL200? Given that the Hammer was priced well over there so might these. I don't have any first hand experience but have read that these work very well and the filtration is very effective. Might be a little large, but you wouldn't need the height or to build a cabinet etc. Maybe worth a look / some investigation.
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Dom
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1st July 2018, 03:12 PM #22Intermediate Member
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Waiting on a price as Jacks - local supplier doesn't like to put anything up in catalogs or online. I am thinking the smaller version the RL125 will be too expensive - might be wrong - my guess for the RL160 would be close to $7k to $8k Kiwi.
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1st July 2018, 04:32 PM #23GOLD MEMBER
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Did you try to get ahold of Muchacho? He like many New Zealander’s have been through it before and may be able to help and he does have that fiberglass version of the Pentz cyclone.
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1st July 2018, 06:34 PM #24SENIOR MEMBER
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3HP Carbatec [URL]https://www.carbatec.co.nz/product/5817-3hp-carba-tec-two-stage-dust-cyclone[/URL]
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Makes the Cleavue look like an absolute bargain!
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2nd July 2018, 11:50 AM #25SENIOR MEMBER
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SCM L'Invincibile si X, SCM L'Invincibile S7, SCM TI 145EP, SCM Sandya Win 630, Masterwood OMB1V, Meber 600, Delta RJ42, Nederman S750, Chicago Pneumatics CPRS10500, Ceccato CDX12
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2nd July 2018, 12:46 PM #26GOLD MEMBER
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The CT cyclone is what got me involved in Clearvue. It was so bad I literally ran it for less than five minutes and then walked inside and rang Clearvue in the US to buy one. During that time of buying I became the agent in Oz & NZ.
I suppose everyone thinks I am looney and lost my marbles when I suggest making one out of MDF but I am serious and I reckon for the cost of most probably under a hundred dollars it would be worth a go. Also 2.3 metres should be enough with a shorter but wider custom made container under it.CHRIS
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2nd July 2018, 01:11 PM #27GOLD MEMBER
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I don’t think you are looney Chris. Most anything that can be shaped could be used. Bending plywood, Masonite plus most of the sheet plastics and metal or staved like a barrel with solid wood. We are woodworkers, sort of, so why not use mdf or anything else in our material pile?
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2nd July 2018, 05:54 PM #28Novice
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7th July 2018, 08:48 AM #29Senior Member
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Looking for Recommendations.
See post #5. Applies to any NZ woodie.
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