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4th June 2011, 04:54 AM #1Senior Member
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I got 3 plans
I got 3 plans from toys n joys. They are "The Coup", "the farm to market truck" and the "1928 chev 1/2 ton truck".
I may start with the farm to market truck which looks the easiest of the group. My first couple will be in pine so mistakes are cheaper to toss away.
I am not sure when I will get started. If I get the shed ( we call it shop as you know and seems funny calling it a shed, but I think I like it) somewhat straightened out this week end , well I just may get a small start. I just have to remember to do things with more care and to pay attention to proper steps and setups etc. I find I get too hasty and well good enough is not good.
I'll post a few pictures if I get going on this project
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4th June 2011, 08:15 AM #2
Great! We are always looking for pics and information about new plans and ideas especially from over your side of the globe.
The more guys and gals from around the world the better.
Pete
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4th June 2011, 04:12 PM #3
G'Day our canuck mate "Byc",
Looking forward to the postings of your WIP photos.
Cheers, Crowie.
PS - "The Shed" in Australia is normally an out-building that could have all sorts of functions,
but mainly in years past it's been the domain of the blokes, somewhere to tinker.
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4th June 2011, 06:50 PM #4
Will be good to see the progress as you go along. I bought a plan from toys and joys a while back but haven't got round to making it yet. I chose the semi trailer tractor (prime mover) and the flat bed tray. The plans looked a bit daunting at first but the more I studied them the clearer they became. Good luck with your project. will keep an eye out for the WIP
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Cheers John
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5th June 2011, 10:00 AM #5Senior Member
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I have a question on glue. It says to use white carpenters glue. Is there a reason to use white as opposed to yellow carpenters glue which I have lots of and would have to go and buy white.
I did a wee bit today on the farm to market truck. I cut the box bottom to size and sized some small pieces for the box racks. A start anyway. First time in a while I used this camera and I noticed too late that the f stop was way off. Pictures are blurred. Attachment 172183
Attachment 172184 Attachment 172185
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5th June 2011, 10:48 AM #6G'Day "Byc",
I found this on the internet, which seems a reasonable explaination;
but I'm sure someone on the forum will have something else.
Cheers, Crowie
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PVA Glue is the category that includes standard white glue and yellow glue. It is the most common glue used by woodworkers. (Yellow glue is also called carpenters glue.) Unless you are working with materials that will be constantly exposed to water, PVA is the glue you probably will use over 95% of the time. It is inexpensive (compared to other glues), non-toxic, and has a long shelf life.
The glue solvent is water and works by intertwining the fibers of wood with the polyvinyl acetate as the water evaporates. The bond strength of PVA glue becomes stronger than the wood itself, so bond strength between white and yellow glue makes no difference.
The basic difference between white glue and yellow glue is that yellow glue has a shorter drying time (open time), usually about five to ten minutes. Another obvious difference is the color. White glue will dry clear and yellow glue will keep its yellow tinge after it has dried. The color difference should not matter to most woodworkers because the dried glue should not be visible on a finished piece of furniture. Gluemakers however have made dyed PVA glues that will dry a darker color to match a darker colored wood.
Its only real drawback, being a water based glue, is that it is not very resistant when exposed to high moisture levels. There are new PVA glues on the market that are more water resistant than the standard white glue. These glues will be labelled 'water resistant' or 'water proof ' but in this case it might be best to read into other glues that might be better suited for your application.
Another reason to maybe think about not using PVA glue is the fact that the high water content in the glue may not work well with certain types of wood that either warp easily (ie. beech), or are oily (teak).
Do no let PVA glue freeze. It will not be good afterwards. With white glue, if the glue has frozen and then thawed, it will dry a white cloudy color instead of clear. If you are not sure if your glue has been previously frozen, test it first. If it dries white instead of clear, then discard the glue as the bond it creates will not be strong.
Some woodworkers prefer to work with either white or yellow glue. Myself, I take the white glue because it gives me an extra 5 minutes of open time to set up my clamps properly.
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6th June 2011, 01:08 AM #7Senior Member
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Thanks very much crowie for finding this information for me. I guess I will buy a bottle of white and use it where I too will need more opened time such as large glue ups after a dry fit etc.
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6th June 2011, 02:54 AM #8
I got told that there are all sorts of people making white glue, Some good and some bad. So to show they are a good glue and are prepared to spend the extra to put yellow dye in. But I guess if you buy a known brand of white glue it should be the same. I'm not game to buy those $2 for half a litre bottle. I stick (no pun intended) with nortons or selleys.
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6th June 2011, 07:54 AM #9
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9th June 2011, 08:51 PM #10Senior Member
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Hi
I am not getting much time on building the model due to crazy hours at work this week and some last week. I guess that's what pays the bills though.
All I got was some back racks made up. I really need to make a photo box also. I find it quite different working in these dimensions and I never got small yet as others have.
The base is pine and the racks and trim is free oak from pallets.
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9th June 2011, 08:57 PM #11
G'Day Murray,
You OAK Pallets for FREE, well done.
We only get rough hardwood or crappy pine.
Looking forward to more WIP photos, thank you.
Cheers, Crowie
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23rd June 2011, 07:25 AM #12Senior Member
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I got a couple of 1/2 days in the shop and slowing picking at the truck. Only the truck box is assembled the rest is just to see what it looks like. A couple of things I have noticed in doing this is this truck is going to be a lot bigger than I thought, it takes me longest to dimension the lumber, it certainly is a lotta work, measurements have to be pretty darn accurate and I have a short attention span. My hat is off to all you toy makers in the forum.
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23rd June 2011, 01:16 PM #13
Accuracy is a lesson well learnt.
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23rd June 2011, 11:16 PM #14
Looking good Murray. I agree with Crowie on rushing through and not being accurate. I have remade 2 parts on the Scania because I went to fast and mis measured.
Later,
Bret
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25th June 2011, 12:04 PM #15Senior Member
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I have done a bit more work on the truck. It is certainly a learning process also. I think I will remake the roof, the engine block and maybe the front frame.
I have yet to make the radiator, the fenders, cut windows in the side doors and cut the wheel axles and cap. I may try and make caps like eldery did. I have to go out tomorrow and buy some dowels. I have about 47 lengths of dowel here and not the right size I need. The shop needs a cleaning tomorrow also. This happens when I can't fit nothing else on a bench or any other flat surface.
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