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    Quote Originally Posted by Yonnee View Post
    Firstly, Happy New Year to you both and congrat's on the sale.


    Toys and Joys and Gatto plans, at fairly inflated prices. This is the link to the Gatto Model A, which I'm prettty sure you'll find is the same. In fact, their own part number prefix tells you whos plans they are; AR###, GA### & TJ###.
    Its the same plan.A few years ago I didnt know where to get plans at the right price,or even where to get them.I ordered the A model from Aust. company and when it arrived it was on Blue A4 sized paper,and from memory cost me $40 incl.post.I complained and sent it back for refund.
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    Hi Colbra
    What a great tip. I just managed to get three more good books, and someone's got a birthday coming up . It doesn't take much to make me happy.

    As for David's background, he is a motor mechanic by trade, so lots of technical things come very easily to him. However, he is totally untrained in woodworking, except for the usual kiddie projects he made at school. He just seemed to take to woodworking naturally and has found one of life's true pleasures.

    I'm delighted when I see how much pleasure the creative side of woodworking can bring. Life's never dull around here, since he's retired. He's currently working on a scrollsawn box with a fretwork metal inlay piece on the lid. Very pretty and unusual.

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    Lilli,you still havent told us how much you got for the sale on ebay.Gives us all an idea on pricing
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    That's daylight robbery what Skills Publishing charges, I'm appalled. As a matter of interest Gatto charges U.S. $8 in an A4 size envelope for delivery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiliB
    As for David's background, he is a motor mechanic by trade, so lots of technical things come very easily to him. However, he is totally untrained in woodworking, except for the usual kiddie projects he made at school. He just seemed to take to woodworking naturally and has found one of life's true pleasures.

    I'm delighted when I see how much pleasure the creative side of woodworking can bring. Life's never dull around here, since he's retired. He's currently working on a scrollsawn box with a fretwork metal inlay piece on the lid. Very pretty and unusual.
    Hi LiliB & David
    I struggle a bit at times but I get there in the end I enjoy the journey I admire people with the natural ability to make and create things, sometimes what would appear to be out of not much at all and with very little tooling.

    If you don't mind I would like recall to you some memories of such a person

    When I was a small boy about 6 or 7 years old my mate’s father would make him model boats.
    We lived in Newcastle near the waterfront at Wickham and he would ride his push bike down to the wharfs and just sit there for hours watching the ships never done any drawing or took notes.
    He would then go back to his little tin shed which had a small heavy work bench and a really old vice some very old tools a small window in the front, there were lots of tobacco tines with screws and nails and god knows what else some paint tins and then what seemed like forever, probably a couple of weeks, he would produce the finished ship, launch, tug, trawler, work boat, punt.
    I learnt when I was much older that he had been a POW I could not begin to imagine what had happened in his life but I know that he would have been one of those Men that during his time of internment would have made things out of nothing.
    I hope you enjoy reading this as much as I have had in recalling it.
    There are lots of reasons why I enjoy making things and this would be one of them.

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    Col
    That is a touching story mate. I am sure it took a bit to write this for us. It brought a tear to my eyes. Their model making must have been the thing that kept them going, don't you think. I never had the chance to meet one of those guys, but would sure have liked too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colbra View Post
    Hi LiliB & David
    I struggle a bit at times but I get there in the end I enjoy the journey I admire people with the natural ability to make and create things, sometimes what would appear to be out of not much at all and with very little tooling.

    If you don't mind I would like recall to you some memories of such a person

    When I was a small boy about 6 or 7 years old my mate’s father would make him model boats.
    We lived in Newcastle near the waterfront at Wickham and he would ride his push bike down to the wharfs and just sit there for hours watching the ships never done any drawing or took notes.
    He would then go back to his little tin shed which had a small heavy work bench and a really old vice some very old tools a small window in the front, there were lots of tobacco tines with screws and nails and god knows what else some paint tins and then what seemed like forever, probably a couple of weeks, he would produce the finished ship, launch, tug, trawler, work boat, punt.
    I learnt when I was much older that he had been a POW I could not begin to imagine what had happened in his life but I know that he would have been one of those Men that during his time of internment would have made things out of nothing.
    I hope you enjoy reading this as much as I have had in recalling it.
    There are lots of reasons why I enjoy making things and this would be one of them.

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    This is a reminder for us/me to let/bring the little ones [both boys& girls] into the shed,
    then show them what we are doing and how it's being done.
    The hope is that they too might enjoy making things with timber.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crowie View Post
    This is a reminder for us/me to let/bring the little ones [both boys& girls] into the shed,
    then show them what we are doing and how it's being done.
    The hope is that they too might enjoy making things with timber.
    Crowie
    I agree Crowie, wholeheartedly. My 5yo daughter constantly sits on the bench and watches me. She knows when to put on her eye and ear protection, offers advice and constantly asks what I'm doing. I bought her a little hammer and she has hammered numerous bits of scrap together and even has her own set of coloured pencils in the shed to colour in the timber. This makes my heart swell with pride that she wants to spend so much time in the shed with me. I just hope my 3yo daughter will follow suite.
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    Lovely story Colbra. I can certainly picture the whole thing beautifully. The silent man, with his demons still haunting him, finding beauty and fulfillment in his craft and his love of his child.

    The creative process stirs something very deep inside us in a way that nothing else can. Every person has a creative urge which sadly isn't always allowed to flower. I feel there is no greater satisfaction to be had than to create something out of ordinary everyday materials. I feel that David is truly blessed in finding that he can create. With a wonderful hobby like woodworking, time becomes irrelevant, boredom doesn't exist, just challenges and projects, and self esteem builds to a level that each person should have.

    It's particularly wonderful when it can be allowed to flower in children. So those of you who have your youngsters by your side in the shed are doing something wonderful for those kids, allowing their skills and imagination to develop and teaching them the joy of creating. This is one of the greatest gifts you can give them, something that will outlive material objects and probably you yourself.

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    Hi Aussie

    As you can probably gather, I am not going to tell you what the models fetched. There is really no such thing as a standard price for craft and art work. It boils down to nature of the buyer, the situation in which you sell, and what you want from the sale.

    Ebay doesn't actually lend itself to price setting. You put a starting price on and then see what happens. When you take a commission, once again, you agree a price with your buyer, based on why they want the model, and who they are.

    You can have two versions of the same plan side by side, and they can be dramatically different. For example, the plans usually call for much thicker material than David uses. They look rather crude if you actually follow the plan to the letter. David adjusts the plan according to his vision of what he wants to create. Although his cars are lovely, I have seen work on this forum that runs rings around what he produces.

    So you see, price is flexible.

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    Hi All in reference to my last post I had no sad memories of those times even though I often think of him working away in his shed and achieving what he did.
    I never knew about the fact he was a POW until it came up in conversation talking to some of Dads old mates which is maybe 30 to 40 yrs. ago.
    I just admire anybody that can make things, and as I said in the last post out of almost nothing.
    I have all the machinery to get my outcome and still find myself struggling a bit at times to get a reasonable out come.
    That’s is were all you great people play your parts by showing and telling swapping and all the advice one could ever hope to find.

    Also so in reference to Pete & Scott’s comments on having the kids around you in the work shop, words could not explain my pleasure on that score asking, what are you making…. what is this for….. Can I paint this…… and pop how come it takes you so long to make things... And on it goes great stuff.

    In summing up I would like to apologise for any spelling mistake and bad grammar as my spell check went shopping
    Colbra
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    Hi Colbra

    We can all forgive spelling and grammar mistakes here. After all, language is being used more casually these days, and if I as an ex English teacher find your communication beautifully clear, I can't see anyone else having grounds for a gripe there.

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    em yllaicepse ,ereh dnuora sdrawkcab elttil a lla er’ew ,arbloC yrrow t’noD
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    Quote Originally Posted by sjt View Post
    em yllaicepse ,ereh dnuora sdrawkcab elttil a lla er’ew ,arbloC yrrow t’noD
    Hi Scott you are a lucky man to be bilingual I wish I was… hope I got the spelling right and haven’t wished for anything that I would instantly regret. LOL
    Col
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    Yup Col, it's great being bilingual, I only speak Australian and English though. Oh, I can write backwards as well
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