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    I have been useing super glue, I scuff the tube pretty well, run the glue in while slowly turning the blank, push the tube into a1/4<>3/8 slice of carrot(not as wet as spud) run a bit of glue over the tube then insert tube, push carrot out with wooden dowl, which leaves tube nice and clean, leave a couple of hours and away you go and that my freinds is "my tuppence worth" CD.

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    I may be wrong, isn't the pen mill used for cleaning out the glue..... I'm only just starting out with pen making but it sounds like I'm barking down the wrong track....... As a lot of you seem to use blue tack or potato in the tube when gluing up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Islander View Post
    Hi Dai Sensei

    Where does one get dental wax sheets. Do you have to be a dentist?
    You can also take a slice from a raw potato (3-4mm) and push the tube into that.
    Will do the same thing as the wax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiggywiggy View Post
    I may be wrong, isn't the pen mill used for cleaning out the glue..... I'm only just starting out with pen making but it sounds like I'm barking down the wrong track....... As a lot of you seem to use blue tack or potato in the tube when gluing up!
    Most of the end mill types are a loose fit in the tubes ,they are only a guide to keep the cutter square to the face if used for trimming, the tolerances on the tubes for kits is quite close a few thousandths of an inch of glue inside the tube is enough to make the fitting parts too tight, and hence a good chance of cracking your finished pen,especially with acrylics and CA finishes, which have little or no give in them. Sometimes the glues used are clear when dry and hard to see inside the tubes, I use a small triangular scraper made from an old triangular file ground flat on all sides, this works well, also a small round file such as a chainsaw file will remove any excess glue , also a good idea to use a rotary scraper to deburr the sharp edges of the tubes to make it easier to start the fittings when pressing together . Lots to learn and try in the penmaking adventure ,you will soon find what works for you and gives you the best results , enjoy the Journey cheers ~ John dental wax can be found on E,Bay or your local Dental supplies distributor the sheets are about 2mm thick and a box will last years
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    Quote Originally Posted by _fly_ View Post
    You can also take a slice from a raw potato (3-4mm) and push the tube into that.
    Will do the same thing as the wax.
    Potato works well, but, make sure you clean the inside of the tube afterwards with metho or similar. The acid from the potato will corrode the brass. Corrosion equals expansion equals split pens.

    Wax is the best but you will need to clean outside of tube, as it can cause debonding at ends, the riskiest place for debonding/peeling of blank when turning down close to size.
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    I have been using playdough from a $2 shop for years, not as messy as potato and easy to clean out of the tube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Shed View Post
    I have been using playdough from a $2 shop for years, not as messy as potato and easy to clean out of the tube.
    I also use play dough - son got heaps of it a couple of xmases ago
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    Quote Originally Posted by gawdelpus View Post
    Most of the end mill types are a loose fit in the tubes ,they are only a guide to keep the cutter square to the face if used for trimming, the tolerances on the tubes for kits is quite close a few thousandths of an inch of glue inside the tube is enough to make the fitting parts too tight, and hence a good chance of cracking your finished pen,especially with acrylics and CA finishes, which have little or no give in them. Sometimes the glues used are clear when dry and hard to see inside the tubes, I use a small triangular scraper made from an old triangular file ground flat on all sides, this works well, also a small round file such as a chainsaw file will remove any excess glue , also a good idea to use a rotary scraper to deburr the sharp edges of the tubes to make it easier to start the fittings when pressing together . Lots to learn and try in the penmaking adventure ,you will soon find what works for you and gives you the best results , enjoy the Journey cheers ~ John dental wax can be found on E,Bay or your local Dental supplies distributor the sheets are about 2mm thick and a box will last years
    Thanks for the advice, that's why I like woodworking, learn something every day!

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    I use Sika polyurethane glue and it works great! To ensure a good bond I rub the brass tubes with a file edge while spinning them on the lathe, going both directions. This creates a criss-cross pattern on the brass. No problems with creeping and the glue is soft enough to trim off with a craft knife when cured. I tried supa glue in the early days but that wasn't successful.

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    ke sure you don't use accelerator on CA glue, it makes it very brittle.

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    To seal the insertion end of the tube just push it into a potato about a 1/4", press the tube sideways to cause a pellet to stay inside and it's job done. Same as you used to do with 'spud guns' when I was a bit younger!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodcrafts_UK View Post
    To seal the insertion end of the tube just push it into a potato about a 1/4", press the tube sideways to cause a pellet to stay inside and it's job done. Same as you used to do with 'spud guns' when I was a bit younger!!
    I do something similar, the neighbours orange tree comes over the fence so I just pick one and use the peel in the same way as you

    Rick

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