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Old 17th Feb 2012, 06:58 PM
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I was asked by another pen maker for some details on how to do threading in PR for kitless pens, so I made up a quick tutorial for him.

Thought perhaps it could be of interest to other pen makers as well.
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Thanks Fred, great tutorial for those who struggle to comprehend even the simplest of mechanical things( I'm one), now to give it a go!!Amos
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Good tutorial Fred, but have you made a kitless from PR?

I know you can thread PR, but I thought PR was too brittle and breaks too easily on the threads once you have turned them down to size for a pen. Or at least that is what they say on the IAP site.

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Hey Fred,

Beaut Tutorial there, Thanks for sharing, I will print this off for future reference.

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Good tutorial Fred, but have you made a kitless from PR?

I know you can thread PR, but I thought PR was too brittle and breaks too easily on the threads once you have turned them down to size for a pen. Or at least that is what they say on the IAP site.

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To answer your question, yes I have made kitless pens and am in the process of putting together a tutorial on that subject.

I have done M12 outside diameter on the barrel with an M10 inside thread for the section without any problems, that leaves less than 1mm wall thickness on the end of the barrel and I have had no problem with that.

I find the thing you have to watch is to keep the thread free from swarf whilst you are cutting it, ie keep clearing it away all the time and don't cut too much thread without withdrawing either the tap or the die. Combine this with your trusty canola cooking oil and you should have no problems. I've put some pics up, note the clear PR collar as per the tutorial.

Only thing I haven't made yet is my own sections.
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Nice work with the tutorial Fred thanks for the info I am sure it will help out in the future and I am looking forward to you next tutorial on Kitless pens.

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Following the tutorial, and many cries for help to Fred, this is the outcome, Amos
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Ok I have read the tutorial and printed it,BUT I am still confused. What is a kitless pen. Can someone please put a pic up of one?
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