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19th April 2017, 10:21 AM #196
OMG...head in a bucket of sand time. It is an accident waiting to happen.
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19th April 2017, 10:45 AM #197
Unfortunately there is only so much a koala can bear, the stress of constantly being the odd man out wears many volunteers down to the point that they no longer enjoy being part of the Men's Shed etc. When a group is united in working towards a common goal it is a light burden, however if there is disharmony it is better for their own mental health to walk away.
I can never understand why a large percentage of the population has so much resistance to safety programs. In the seventies people strongly resisted the mandatory implementation of seat belts now most don't even question the requirement to wear them - its now normal. Motorcycle helmets, face shields, hearing & breathing protection etc all have faced the same initial and lengthy resistance. Eventually it will become normalized behaviour BUT it is a slow process.Mobyturns
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19th April 2017, 02:22 PM #198
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19th April 2017, 02:54 PM #199
Oh its great here... NSW has different building laws to WA. Nearly every state here is different... Then there's NMSA & there's WAMSA...National & Western Australia Mensshed Associations.... OHS have different rules in nearly every industry... it's just a mine field! Need a full time secretary to keep tag on changing rules. Think in TestNTag there are even different colours in one state. Real fun for the trades. Oh, & thats not to mention local by-laws.
Don't think you're playing it safe by walking in the middle of the road.....that's the surest way to get hit by traffic coming from both ways!
I'm passionate about woodwork.......making Sawdust again & loving it!
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19th April 2017, 03:50 PM #200.
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That pretty well sums it up for me.
I retired from a high risk, uni lab environment (radioactivity, high voltage, lasers, chemicals etc) where things had gone from "slack as" in the 1970's to OTT (in the late naughties). By the time I retired there were some dozen full time people on campus involved in OHS (mostly managers f some kind or other), and in the unit I managed of some 70 people we had 9 staff tied up with OHS duties. The full time OHS people were near useless and they had to ask us what we did and could not advise much beyond how to use an office chair or pick up a box of books. The paperwork was horrendous and often seemed pointless. As a manager, on one side I was involved on dragging some staff into the 21st century practices, not unlike the mens shed, while on the other side sometimes had to go into bat for expert staff so they could continue their research. When I retired I was just glad to get away from the whole OHS juggernaught full stop.
When I joined the mens shed I just assumed OHS would be an upfront consideration, nit of course at the same level as my former work place but at least at a basic level. I turned up on the first day with my own muffs, face shield, leather apron and boots etc and felt a bit like the guest who turns up to a party in fancy dress and got it wrong. The blokes were delightful but OHS was definitely a long way down the list. Things definitely improved over time but especially as a supervisor I just didn't feel right about the speed things were moving which I why I pulled out of that role. I popped in this morning for 2 minutes to pick something up - the place was full and "busy as". I don't look too hard and my mental health is much better.
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19th April 2017, 10:37 PM #201
Yeah, sometimes its best not to look to close at things.
When I walk around my work site if I see something obvious I take action. Saw a damaged lead on a vacuum cleaner, so told the cleaner that it was unsafe and had every right not to use it. "Take it out of service." Easier to replace/repair the vacuum cleaner than the staff member (over 35 years service!) Yet other cleaners would want to carry on until sparks fly!
Being a safety person is probably a thankless task, but the thanks is not having to fill in accident forms and contact family after the event.
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8th June 2018, 04:58 PM #202.
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"Trooubble at Mill" again.
Dropped in at the mens shed today and within as many minutes spotted the following.
Bloke using a cut off saw without any face PPE.
These two containers of Hydrochloric acid outside in a walk way.
I'll bet they are still there next week
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Someone finally worked out why the TS is releasing a lot of dust.
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I wonder how long it will take before they realize that 4" port is too small.
Now you know why I no longer work there.
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8th June 2018, 06:32 PM #203" I said "DON'T LOOK, BOB!!" 'n' it's too late - he'd already been INcensed. "
my apologies to Ray Stevens.Mobyturns
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8th June 2018, 08:25 PM #204GOLD MEMBER
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Yeah, there's nobody 'responsible' for any of those jobs/maintenance issues so everybody just considers it somebody else's problem. Our local woodcrafters club is not perfect in this regard, but it leaves the local men's sheds for dead. I can't believe some of the dumb things people do and even if it's pointed out there's rarely any corrective action or instruction.
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8th June 2018, 09:11 PM #205
“The Responsibility Poem”
There was a most important job that needed to be done,
And no reason not to do it, there was absolutely none.
But in vital matters such as this, the thing you have to ask
Is who exactly will it be who’ll carry out the task?Anybody could have told you that Everybody knew
That this was something Somebody would surely have to do.
Nobody was unwilling; Anybody had the ability.
But Nobody believed that it was their responsibility.It seemed to be a job that Anybody could have done,
If Anybody thought he was supposed to be the one.
But since Everybody recognized that Anybody could,
Everybody took for granted that Somebody would.But Nobody told Anybody that we are aware of,
That he would be in charge of seeing it was taken care of.
And Nobody took it on himself to follow through,
And do what Everybody thought that Somebody would do.When what Everybody needed so did not get done at all,
Everybody was complaining that Somebody dropped the ball.
Anybody then could see it was an awful crying shame,
And Everybody looked around for Somebody to blame.Somebody should have done the job
And Everybody should have,
But in the end Nobody did
What Anybody could have.
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8th June 2018, 09:59 PM #206
Bob, that is fancy dress. I really hope you didn't walk in wearing full regalia
Anyway, what's wrong with compacted dust in a TS? At least you can snap off a clean lump in one piece.
WRT safety issues in public sheds: I think the only way it can really stay safe is if someone who is "qualified" or ticketed (or similar) operates the trickier machinery like TS, BS etc. So, "eh Bluey, I need you to rip some timber for this bloke". Probably an ungainly system, but.....
I joined a shed some years ago, but that was really only so I could finish a project as part of a course that was using the Shed (a Council course). Most of the machines were, uhhh, "ordinary", and the chisels were the best screwdrivers I've ever seen - never seen a 1" wide screwdriver before.
I observed one guy - and I chit you not - feed half the length of a plank into a Triton TS, let it go (still running - I guess he pulled it back slightly off the blade), walk around the other end and then pull it through - instead of asking one of only 15 or so people to help.
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8th June 2018, 10:35 PM #207
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8th June 2018, 11:19 PM #209SENIOR MEMBER
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The woodworking club I was involved with prior to my last move had a very simple policy.
You don't work safe here - you don't work here. They would politely remind you and if you didn't comply - they would boot you for the day.
Simple but effective.
And the shop supervisor basically had 1 concern in this regard - "I don't care what you do at home... You won't do it on my watch".
And if you got belligerant about it - you got booted from the club for good.
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9th June 2018, 12:04 AM #210
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