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    I just meant that maybe there was a way for us all to work together? To learn skills and contribute, may be night attendees could help, rather than take advantage of the facilities.

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    Our shed (care of a Council) has opening constraints of 9am to 8pm weekdays and 9am to 5pm weekends/ holidays. We have several residential neighbours backing onto our 'side-passageway'.
    BobL, you guys sound wonderfully organised- send your 'military' grump to us to see what chaos really looks like!
    Could you tell us the scheme for key holders? I wish we could make copies for trustworthy members to open up at the other days of the week. However the locks are restricted copying Council jobbies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewOC View Post
    Our shed (care of a Council) has opening constraints of 9am to 8pm weekdays and 9am to 5pm weekends/ holidays. We have several residential neighbours backing onto our 'side-passageway'.
    Our opening hours are 8:30 to 4:30, 4 days a week and we are not open on Weekends.

    Noise wise our council rules are
    Equipment can be used (inside a shed) for up to two hours (accumulative) on any one day:

    • between 7am–7pm Monday to Saturday, and
    • between 9am–7pm Sundays or public holidays.


    However, the main reason for our shortish operating hours is not the local council noise rules but the lack of suitable persons willing to act as supervisors and the number of members that actually attend the shed.
    Most of our sessions are only attended by around a dozen members except Monday arvo and friday morning where as many as 25 members turn up.
    Most of our machines and 4 of our benches are on wheels so when this happens we use machinery like thicknesses, routers and bandsaws outside.
    Last friday we had a thicknesser running outside for about 4 hours outside - we are waiting for the complaints.
    We would extend our hours if more members turned up at other times and more supervisors were available.

    BobL, you guys sound wonderfully organised- send your 'military' grump to us to see what chaos really looks like!
    It always sounds way better than it is. We are still too crowded with too many machines and need to get rid of a few more.
    We still need to move our big compressor and dust extractor outside but this is being held up by the council.

    For storage we have a 40 ft seatainer and about a dozen trolleys full of stuff like metal, wood, projects underway etc that are stored inside the shed and when sessions are running are wheeled outside so we have more space
    There are two external work spaces, one is a 6 bay carpark from which we exclude cars and the other is a 10 m long double driveway that leads up to two roller doors - we use these spaces a lot for things like painting and dust making activities.
    We now have two stainless steel wire flying fox lines that each support 15A electrical leads across the whole workshop and plan to set up two more i.e. one from each end of the flying foxes.
    We are still setting up dust extraction and reticulated compressed air systems and there is still a fair bit of electrical and safety upgrading required of some machinery.

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    Could you tell us the scheme for key holders? I wish we could make copies for trustworthy members to open up at the other days of the week. However the locks are restricted copying Council jobbies.
    We have the same problem with keys being Council controlled.
    Only nominated supervisors and a couple of senior members have keys or access to keys.
    A supervisor (preferably two) must be present while the shed is officially open.
    We keep a set of keys in a small combination lock key safe attached to the building - this seems to be working well.
    We have a no working alone policy but I'm a bit naughty in this regard and sometimes duck down to the Shed to do a quite task or two while there is no one around otherwise I can never get anything done during a normal session.
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    Great looking Shed and facilities Bob
    Very impressive...MM
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    I have read the thread and can see how things can get a little top heavy towards the older generation of men in regards to men's sheds. By the time you reached retirement you have nothing to do or nothing that sparks your interest and it is easy to just let things slide.

    As humans on this planet we are a very social species and yes I expect there will be a few people that can argue their point that we don't have to be. But I believe that for the majority we need to have some interaction with one another.

    There are a variety of ways available that we can have some interaction with one another and Men's shed is one aspect of this. I should have mention from the start that I am not a member of a men shed but a member of a wood turning group. I believe the dynamics are fundamentally the same.

    We need both experienced and non-experienced members, it just so happens that experienced members are mainly retired older people and the non-experienced members are a little younger. I believe it takes the younger members to reignite the older members fire to create.

    So every club needs to have a wider age group of people.

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    The local 'Shed' only has a membership of about 12 which fluctuates when the group have a collective barney
    This is where the problem lies.
    Too many skippers and not enough deckhands
    Not a great environment for recruitment of new members,particularly the young
    The last fight they had was apparently full of expletives...not happy campers at this 'Shed'
    A lot of money has been spent on it too..for a handful of blokes that don't get along with each other.
    Would like to think the other 'Sheds' operate a little more harmoniously ...MM
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAPLEMAN View Post
    The local 'Shed' only has a membership of about 12 which fluctuates when the group have a collective barney
    This is where the problem lies.
    Too many skippers and not enough deckhands
    Not a great environment for recruitment of new members,particularly the young
    The last fight they had was apparently full of expletives...not happy campers at this 'Shed'
    A lot of money has been spent on it too..for a handful of blokes that don't get along with each other.
    Would like to think the other 'Sheds' operate a little more harmoniously ...MM
    That's most unfortunate - you should video it and play it back to them to show them how stupid they look.
    Our shed is nothing like that.
    One advantage of being in a bigger location is being able to shop around for a shed that suits an individual.
    One shed I went to visit seemed to be dominated by a couple of "know alls" , and another didn't meet often enough for my liking.
    A third one I visited seemed to be ridden with agro and expletives - a bit like yours MM.
    Manning mens shed is generally pretty calm and I haven't heard a word raised in anger in the last 18 months.
    We certainly have disagreements, and take the on a regular basis, but things are usually sorted without resorting to acrimony.
    The following illustrates the trivial level of problem we have, where one member started telling increasing filthy/juvenile jokes.
    When it got to a point where no one was laughing he got the message and toned down the jokes - no one said anything and it all worked out.

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    Hi All, Just throwing my two bobs worth in, I joined my local shed about two years ago and while it seemed a quite a harmonious place I found that I was a case of if I did not speak to them they would not speak to me. Most of the work done there was for the local community and very little for the individual which I believe is how it should be. But there was no real community spirit within the club.I left after a few months. Regards Brian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durham Lad View Post
    Hi All, Just throwing my two bobs worth in, I joined my local shed about two years ago and while it seemed a quite a harmonious place I found that I was a case of if I did not speak to them they would not speak to me. Most of the work done there was for the local community and very little for the individual which I believe is how it should be. But there was no real community spirit within the club.I left after a few months. Regards Brian.
    That's a bit sad and always a problem if inner impenetrable circles form.
    Our shed committee meets every fortnight and we invite 2-3 members from outside the committee to attend and comment on things.
    We have drinks and sausage sizzle once a month where "award"funny s are given out to active members and just cos'.
    Our monthly newsletter features a new member so every one gets to find out something different about the new members.

    The work we do is mainly setting up the shed but as this tapers off more and more member are increasing able to do their own thing.
    Woodwork wise a half dozen or so blokes are making toys for their grandiose and one bloke is making wine racks
    Metal work wise a bloke is making a rack for his van and one is making knives.
    On bloke spent a couple of months slowly fixing up a roller mower
    The yougest member was shown how to turn and has been turning out bowls.
    We also have a small group making kid size table and chairs for sale.

    Community wise we made public bookshelves for local bus stations, Mahjong boards for the Senior Citizens Centre, some Harp covers, Spears for a local indigenous theatre group and a large display/fete cart for OzHarvest.

    I could post a PDF sample of our newsletter if anyone is interested.

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    Our local mens shed opens 2 days a week, from 9am till 1pm. It needs to be renamed to a retired mens shed. I feel this is pretty common.

    As an advocate against suicide, and a person who has lost a lot of mates to the horrible disease called depression, I would put my full support behind any shed that goes out and seeks the younger members and mentors them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    Our shed committee meets every fortnight and we invite 2-3 members from outside the committee to attend and comment on things.
    We have drinks and sausage sizzle once a month where "award"funny s are given out to active members and just cos'.
    Our monthly newsletter features a new member so every one gets to find out something different about the new members.

    I could post a PDF sample of our newsletter if anyone is interested.
    A couple of good ideas there Bob. Encouraging general members to attend committee meetings hopefully will lead to a wider range of members willing to get more involved in their club.

    I rather like the awards for those little incidents that happen from time to time, they might be a funny comment, a silly mistake like spending time trying to fix a problem when all that is needed is to turn the power on at the power point, or some trivial event that 'just happens'. We have an O.B.E and O.B.N award certificate presented to our members on their 80th and 90th birthdays (Over Bloody Eighty etc.)

    I would love to see a copy of your newsletter at some stage.

    Alan...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Al View Post
    A couple of good ideas there Bob. Encouraging general members to attend committee meetings hopefully will lead to a wider range of members willing to get more involved in their club.

    I rather like the awards for those little incidents that happen from time to time, they might be a funny comment, a silly mistake like spending time trying to fix a problem when all that is needed is to turn the power on at the power point, or some trivial event that 'just happens'. We have an O.B.E and O.B.N award certificate presented to our members on their 80th and 90th birthdays (Over Bloody Eighty etc.)

    I would love to see a copy of your newsletter at some stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearo View Post
    Our local mens shed opens 2 days a week, from 9am till 1pm. It needs to be renamed to a retired mens shed. I feel this is pretty common.

    As an advocate against suicide, and a person who has lost a lot of mates to the horrible disease called depression, I would put my full support behind any shed that goes out and seeks the younger members and mentors them.
    Appreciate your input Pearo...MM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearo View Post
    Our local mens shed opens 2 days a week, from 9am till 1pm. It needs to be renamed to a retired mens shed. I feel this is pretty common.

    As an advocate against suicide, and a person who has lost a lot of mates to the horrible disease called depression, I would put my full support behind any shed that goes out and seeks the younger members and mentors them.
    HI Guys,
    Well my opening line was going to be "get them while they are young" however after reading Pearo's comment I think its a case of get them before its too late.
    I have been thinking about joining my local shed Hastings Vic, as yet there is no Local Somerville Shed. Reading all the comments here, there does not seem to be a lot of future proofing for the Mens Shed, surly we need to get people my age late 30's early 40's involved. I will pull the finger out to go down to the local shed before I make any further comments. As a advocate against suicide I think the outlet that the Mens Shed provides is out standing.

    Any local member here for Hastings please get in touch.

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    I have been reading this thread with interest as there is a Mens' Shed about to open locally. I have no intention of joining at the moment because I have other commitments but I will refer them to this thread as it may help them structure their set up.
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