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    Quote Originally Posted by coffenup View Post
    I was thinking of doing that but as a basic wood worker its going to be a basic work bench
    regards Michael
    Definitely keep the progress pictures flowing, not everyone has the time/money/skills/inclination to make those epic heirloom work benches. A basic work bench that gets used is doing what it was meant to do, just look at my first workbench: https://www.woodworkforums.com/f213/cray-workbench-146279

    It's as basic as it gets but I had fun building it, learning new tricks and documenting my efforts. Plus the support from the other users here is always phenomenal, a basic bench is just as useful and inspirational to others at a similar level. Look forward to seeing more.
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    Hopefully will post more photos on the week end
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    this is the next stage in my work bench build
    sorry pictures on the side and don't know why picture one is the top bench frame I then put 70mm X 19mm boards on top of the frame once it was on top so I could attatch the work bench top with screws from underneath
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    because I have been building the bench out of 70mm X 35mm and the bench vice is a old home made unit I made a template and did the basic holes first I then added the lower part with a 19mm X 90mm backing and glued & nailed it together with 2 screws from underneath to assist the positioning while the glue dries the last picture is of the back of the vice
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    I have now sized the top and cut out the corner behind the vice so that It is semi flush with the edge of the bench top
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    the top is a 38mm thick piece of chip board that I have had in the shed for 10 years . I will put a finishing edge around the bench and then the next stage will be the leg vice on the other end of the bench. I am hoping I will be making a set of draws & cupboard under the bench & include the small compressor to run the nail gun & air blower
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    yeah had some shed time today got the leg vice fitted and the lower bench shelf strengtheners. I drilled some holes in the bench vice outer wooding jaw to see if I can get some bench dogs put in as I will be using it to help making some thin walled boxes
    is it possible to use bolts as bench dogs as the heads of the bolts are 8mm tall would this work before I drill the holes in the bench
    hopefully photos will be posted tomorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by coffenup View Post
    .....is it possible to use bolts as bench dogs as the heads of the bolts are 8mm tall would this work before I drill the holes in the bench.....
    Michael, of course you can use just about any strong material for dogs, but I would never use hard metal for the job. No matter how careful you are, there is always a risk that a sharp blade or router-bit will come in contact with it! Aluminium about the only common metal that is soft enough not to damage cutting edges much, but imo, wood is cheap, plentiful and safe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanW View Post
    Michael, of course you can use just about any strong material for dogs, but I would never use hard metal for the job. No matter how careful you are, there is always a risk that a sharp blade or router-bit will come in contact with it! Aluminium about the only common metal that is soft enough not to damage cutting edges much, but imo, wood is cheap, plentiful and safe!

    Cheers,
    thanks IanW for your advice I did not think about the hardness of the bolts. I was just going through my workshop to see what I had to make the dogs and had heaps of bolts. I might look at machining some ally or brass down to use as dogs. I just had a thought I have some 100 year old jarrah timber in the wood rack would that be ok to make the dogs out off
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    Just about any wood will do for dogs, Michael, it doesn't have to be bone-hard. I use square dogs on the front section of my bench, which of course have to be allowed for during bench manufacture. It's not easy to make square dog-holes retrospectively, though it can be done, of course. I tried various ways to make my dogs 'sit' on command, but the best solution so far has been ball-catches: Dog breeds.jpg

    I do use round dogs in the front vise for gripping short, wide things like chair seats: Front vise dogs2.jpg

    I haven't thought up any simple solution for making round wooden dogs stay put, other than turn them with a shoulder: :New dogs.jpg
    which means I need a selection of them with different heights, but that's no big deal, takes a minute or less to turn up a dog, & anothe 30 seconds to saw a flat on it. The flat is to distribute the clamping pressure a bit, so it won't mark softer woods so easily. Someone suggested 3/4" wooden dogs would be too weak for the job, so out of curiosity, I made some out of radiata Pine. I managed to break them, alright, but it took more force than I would normally apply to anything I was clamping up! I think you'd have to get very serious to break 3/4 Jarrah dogs.

    There has been a debate on round vs square dogs. I think the result was a draw, there are pros & cons for both, but both do the job well enough, and any sort of a dog system is a huge advance on none!

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    started on the next stage of the bench build I have not touched it in weeks due to bad health
    I put the second vice on the bench.
    due to lack of strength I went to the big green shed and had them rough cut the pieces for my in bench storage and did the final cuts a home
    here are the next stage all joints are just butt joints but have glued & screwed I have fitted it to the bench
    sorry photos are again on the side due to the forum
    I have left 120 mm gap on top of the cupboards & below the work bench top to allow an area that you can put the tools I am using for the job and also storage of the smaller lengths of box making materials and also leave space to unscrew the top
    I have since made a small area to store the air lines in next to the compressor will put a door to hide the compressor, I will build draws to store small items in in the area on back of the bench which is only 300 deep,
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    Good to see some progress Michael.

    I'll send you my chiropractor's bill

    Scott

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozziespur View Post
    Good to see some progress Michael.

    I'll send you my chiropractor's bill

    Scott
    that's ok if I pay yours you can pay mine as I see the physio/chiro at the moment twice a week to get pain relief
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    Really nice looking bench there Michael. You've done yourself proud....clean lines, straight and neat joints and you're slowly but surely setting it up to suit you and your own style.
    It certainly makes my effort pale into insignificance by comparison. Every time I stuff up a cut or measurement, I have to go to my weather proof timber storage heap and search for a replacement lump in hopefully the same size as the one I mucked up in the first place.
    Of course when I said my wood heap was weather proof, I meant that all you had to do was see it to prove it was out in the weather.

    Stay well my friend,
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    Micheal,

    I just remembered one thing I was going to suggest, but my dimwit brain lost the connection while I was writing the last entry.
    Anyhow,....you mentioned someting about air compressors. I have my larger compressor set up in my shed purely because it's the only place with a 15 amp outlet.
    However, I recently purchased a "kit" where-by you can have your compressor and its associated noise relegated to an outdoor area (under cover of course), and run separate rubber air lines from a base manifold system, to two various chosen points in your shed, thus freeing up some much needed space along the way.
    I've yet to set mine up, mainly because of my protracted bench build, but with this kit, which I think I got from Pro. Wood Supplies, I'll be rid of my bloody great space sucking machine and have selected air take-off points where I most need them as opposed to having power leads and air hoses laying around for me to constantly trip over. Yeah, I know I should always wind up my leads and hoses after I've used them, but who actually does that when you're changing from machine to machine, while also using your nifty nail gun as well? Not me
    So, that was my suggestion for you while you're still thinking about building drawers and wondering how many more of them you could have if only the compressor was somewhere else?

    Cheers,
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    bob I am jealous of the room you have and what you don't see is my mistakes I make along the road and that I sit and look then look some more then have a cuppa and look again before I cut I also worry and have tried things I have read about ages ago and always try to remember how it was done.
    If you have a look I have just placed my small 20 lt compressor in one side this operates my brad nailer and also my staplers.
    the 60 lt compressor will be housed in the padded sound deadening box under the small carport hooked to operate the big air tools
    regards Michael
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    had as thought at 3 am this morning as this vice is sort of a tacked on because it was there vice
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    If I remove this and rotate it 90 degrees and put 2 runners so it does slide & not bind could I use this old girl as my end vise to put the dogs in & the bench for sanding & planning
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    Quote Originally Posted by coffenup View Post
    Bob
    bob I am jealous of the room you have and what you don't see is my mistakes I make along the road and that I sit and look then look some more then have a cuppa and look again before I cut I also worry and have tried things I have read about ages ago and always try to remember how it was done.
    If you have a look I have just placed my small 20 lt compressor in one side this operates my brad nailer and also my staplers.
    the 60 lt compressor will be housed in the padded sound deadening box under the small carport hooked to operate the big air tools
    regards Michael
    Michael,
    It's a real shame we don't live closer together. I can just picture us sitting there sipping cuppas and kicking sawdust while we worry over our "mistakes".
    Good times can be had from some of the most mundane situations these days, especially as we get older, but always wiser. No one can ever take that aspect of our being away from us, no matter what the condition of our bodies at the time.

    Cheers,
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