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23rd September 2013, 10:00 PM #1Novice
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First off a big thankyou to must go out to everyone who has constructed a build log and/or WIP as I have been trolling through these over the past few months.
My Plan.
I would like to construct the Shaker Style Workbench as created by Jameel Abraham and Ron Brese according to the construction notes that are supplied on the Benchcrafted website. I have been exploring the various types of workbench designs for over a year and a half now and settled on this design for a few reasons.
- Bench top is only four laminations of the boards that I have procured. Decreasing/minimising my eventual errors.
- Whilst moderately handy with tools I have an innate design ability that roughly approximates zero and these construction notes seem to walk me through the steps fairly well.
- Carcase is plywood construction.
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Involvement to date.
I procured the timber for the build over a year ago from an auction place in south Brisbane for about $200. There was a second pallet of the same timber which I quibbled over and have subsequently regrated not purchasing ever since. The timber is Kiln Dried European Beech dressed to 45mm x 140mm with most lengths at 2.7m-3.1m. about 20 boards were in the lot. I purchased this timber before I had even started to build the 6mx10m garage/ workroom off to the side of the existing house. Now it is for almost finished, I have started to fit out the workroom with kitchen cabinets I have stored for over two years and bits and pieces that I knew I would require one day, when I saw them at the dump/on the side of the road/ in skips. I have also begun gathering the materials for the Benchcrafted Roubo workbench but that’s another story.
Issues I have already faced.
- Milling. The boards are 45mm thick and I need to re-saw these down in thickness by half to construct the face boards for the carcase that the plans indicate. My triton table saw will only cut to a depth of 50mm which leaves me will short off the 140mm board width that I have. I did try a backup plan. I tried to re-saw these down on a bandsaw, using a bandsaw at the local highschool, however the cut was wavy and after I ran it through a thicknessed I had lost too much material to sawdust. So I need to find a shop on the Gold Coast or surrounds that will rip three boards in half thickness.
- Plywood. Went to Bunnings and Masters too look at their options regading this. The plan calls for ¾ soft wood plywood. Bunnings only stocked sheets that had knots and defects throughout the entire sheet. Their Marine ply was much better, however it was coming in at over $100 per sheet and I require two. Masters was a similar story. I have found a place at Arundel that specialises in plywood so I will make a trip after work to have a look and get some more knowledgeable opinions.
- American terminology. The construction notes call for timber sizes such as 8/4 stock, 5/4 stock, 12/4 stock. I have searched google but cannot find what these equate to in metric.
The major road block for now is the resawing I need to have done on the 45mm x 140mm boards. If anyone can suggest some leads in close proximity to the Gold Coast I would be greatfull.
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PeterLast edited by PeTeR1810; 23rd September 2013 at 10:26 PM. Reason: added pictures
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23rd September 2013, 10:18 PM #2
Sorry can't help much as I'm a little bit south of you
Look around for a specialist supplier of ply - there is bound to be one - I've heard of Mr Plywood but have never used as them there's a local outfit hereabouts whom are good and extremely helpful, so I'm pretty sure there would be similar in your area
The american system confuses everyone but this should help ... linkregards
Nick
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23rd September 2013, 10:25 PM #3
Cant help with the resaw. What is your plan re vices?
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23rd September 2013, 10:37 PM #4Novice
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Thanks sawdust maker. That link explains my question perfectly. It does not explain why they have not transitioned to the metric system though. There are two ply places on the coast that I will check out tomorrow.
Pacman. The vice hardware is ongoing. I have a leg vice screw from my late grandfather that I would like to incorporate into the build, however I might replace that more traditional wooden handle option with a cast hand wheel. Have not firmed on the wagon vise option as depicted on the benchcrafted version above or to remake with an ‘L’ shaped tail vice. I really like to esthetics of the bench and do not want to mess around with the design too much.
Peter
PS. Would a cabinet maker have the table saw that would rip a 140mm board in half? Or a furniture maker? I just don’t know who would have the correct tools to do the task and therefore cannot make any phone calls to track someone down.
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24th September 2013, 09:22 AM #5GOLD MEMBER
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Yes most cabinet shops should have a saw that could cut that height, my 12' woodman can cut 100mm thick and most cabinet shops would have at least a 12 more likely 14" blade. I would try one of the cut to size cabbies more chance of getting it done reasonably quickly instead of waiting for a production shop to fit it in when they can get around to it.
Regards Rod.
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24th September 2013, 10:39 AM #6Novice
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24th September 2013, 12:52 PM #7
Wow, I'd like to see the blade on that one
Peter, I'm not sure where on the coast you are, but other than trying local cabinet makers(cabbies) there are 'cut to size' outlets that will cut up chipboard sheets for you to your specifications. There is one up near the intersection of SouthportNerang Rd and Ashmore Rd and a couple in Nerang. Another alternative might be somewhere like Hardwood Heaven at Burleigh that do recycled timber and might do a resaw job for you.
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24th September 2013, 01:25 PM #8Novice
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Thanks Fuzzie,
I have left a message with Hardwood Heaven as they offer machining as one of thier sevices on the website. The gallery pictures have some very substantial hardwood sizes made into sme very impressive structures.
Regards,
Peter
I am in Mudgeeraba so kind of central.
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24th September 2013, 01:45 PM #9
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24th September 2013, 02:37 PM #10Intermediate Member
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Mate the inclosed might help with the american sizes.
Hardwoods[edit source | edit]
In North America, sizes for dimensional lumber made from hardwoods varies from the sizes for softwoods. Boards are usually supplied in random widths and lengths of a specified thickness, and sold by the board-foot (144 cubic inches or 2,360 cubic centimetres, 1⁄12th of 1 cubic foot or 0.028 cubic metres). This does not apply in all countries; for example, in Australia many boards are sold to timber yards in packs with a common profile (dimensions) but not necessarily consisting of the same length boards.
Also in North America, hardwood lumber is commonly sold in a "quarter" system when referring to thickness. 4/4 (four quarters) refers to a 1-inch-thick (25 mm) board, 8/4 (eight quarters) is a 2-inch-thick (51 mm) board, etc. This system is not usually used for softwood lumber, although softwood decking is sometimes sold as 5/4 (actually one inch thick).Nominal Surfaced on one side (S1S) Surfaced on two sides (S2S) 1⁄2 in 3⁄8 in (9.5 mm) 5⁄16 in (7.9 mm) 5⁄8 in 1⁄2 in (13 mm) 7⁄16 in (11 mm) 3⁄4 in 5⁄8 in (16 mm) 9⁄16 in (14 mm) 1 in or 4⁄4 in 7⁄8 in (22 mm) 13⁄16 in (21 mm) 1 1⁄4 in or 5⁄4 in 1 1⁄8 in (29 mm) 1 1⁄16 in (27 mm) 1 1⁄2 in or 6⁄4 in 1 3⁄8 in (35 mm) 1 5⁄16 in (33 mm) 2 in or 8⁄4 in 1 13⁄16 in (46 mm) 1 3⁄4 inches (44 mm) 3 in or 12⁄4 in 2 13⁄16 in (71 mm) 2 3⁄4 in (70 mm) 4 in or 16⁄4 in 3 13⁄16 in (97 mm) 3 3⁄4 in (95 mm)
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24th September 2013, 03:04 PM #11Intermediate Member
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Bad idea to buy ply from the green shead or the general. If you want the face to look nice go to a timber yard ask for a sheet with an
a grade side this is select, the back non viewing side can be a b or c grade side. Bunning ply in pretty much c,c grade.
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24th September 2013, 03:14 PM #12GOLD MEMBER
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Here you go fuzzie my 12" woodman saw. Sorry about that peter yes I meant cut to size cabinet maker/ shop I also would be glad to do it for you but we are a bit far apart to make it worthwhile for you I am a few hour's away.
Regards Rod.
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24th September 2013, 04:27 PM #13
I think Fuzzie was commenting on your 12' woodman (ie 12 foot)
regards
Nick
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24th September 2013, 05:19 PM #14Milling. The boards are 45mm thick and I need to re-saw these down in thickness by half to construct the face boards for the carcase that the plans indicate. My triton table saw will only cut to a depth of 50mm which leaves me will short off the 140mm board width that I have. I did try a backup plan. I tried to re-saw these down on a bandsaw, using a bandsaw at the local highschool, however the cut was wavy and after I ran it through a thicknessed I had lost too much material to sawdust. So I need to find a shop on the Gold Coast or surrounds that will rip three boards in half thickness.
You can do this on your Triton you know.
As long as all the side edges are square to a reference face - ensure that this is so - run the boards through the Triton with the reference side against the fence, and take it progressive deeper with several runs alternating on one side. You can then finish the cut in one or two runs by rotating the board to the other side.
If your saw is not deep enough (it should be), then remove the centre "bridge" with a handsaw or that pesky bandsaw.
Leave enough waste to joint to the depth you want.
Regards fro Perth
DerekVisit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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24th September 2013, 06:17 PM #15
My experience with attempting to resaw 3m boards on dodgy home grade equipment haven't been great. Maybe with a bit more experience and confidence it would work, I just don't have the space. Sometimes it's worth dropping $'s to use pro equipment when necessary.
Another option might be the Burleigh Mens shed if you want to try it DIY. I have been meaning to check it out myself. I understand it has a fair bit of good equipment on hand and might have the space and support (physical and moral) to handle 3m boards.
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