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    Default Installing an Irwin Record vice, how much below the benchtop is OK?

    Hi All,
    I have just made a kind of cobbled-together kind of bench from recycled materials, using what I had... As such the design kind of evolved as it progressed... Basically I have a top made from a layer of 12mm ply topped with a layer of 18mm ply. There is a kind of wall frame construction underneath, including a couple of big lengths of hardwood at the front to hold the vice. I have mounted a 230mm record vice recessed such that a layer of tas oak will make up the front edge of the bench and the back of the vice and I'll also have a length of it to make up the front cheek.

    My question is, though, the vice is mounted such that the top of the rear cheek is at the bottom of the plywood layers (30mm below the benchtop). Is this too low to provide adequate strength to grip items at the top of the cheeks? I was going to use a length of 18mm tas oak for the front cheek, but I am thinking that maybe something more like 30mm thick attached with small coach screws might be better in this case? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated...

    Cheers!

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    I have a very similar set-up, a 230mm vice (Asian copy) but it is sitting 36.5mm below the surface.

    I placed a 12mm by 120mm deep by 380mm wide piece of softwood (pine drawer side member) against the front of the bench to give me fiddle room for bent/curved timber, this is held in place with countersunk screws.

    On the front of the vice I found an old bedhead made out of pine, it is 34mm thick by 380mm wide by 120mm deep. I found the best way to make things work was to countersink two holes and use some normal nuts and bolts to attach this as plan A was using screws that just pulled out, plan B was the nuts and bolts approach, that has been quite successful.

    I then pulled that piece of metal thingy out of the front and welded an extension bit of steel of the same size, to lengthen it so it would work correctly.

    My bench is made completely from scrap materials picked up from the nature strip, apart from screws and bolts that is.

    My bench top is from an executive looking type desk, looks like current kitchen bench top material inside with a laminate on the top, not the best, but, as it cost me nothing at all, perfect.

    I'll try and figure out how to do some pictures and add them later today, or tomorrow.

    In answer to your question on thickness, 18mm from my experience sort of bends a bit before it starts to rip apart or crack, especially hardwood. The thicker softwood is kind to anything you place in the vice and so far doesn't even look like stretching, cracking or breaking.

    Mick.

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    First of all welcome to the forum.

    Here
    are some instructions online. Here is a nice pictorial

    also the workbench book by Scott Landis has some info as well.

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    Hmm yes, welcome to the forum.

    I took a few pictures and they should be reasonably easily understood, I hope.

    One thing that is a bit different from all other benches I've had, is that this one is attached to the garage wall and doesn't budge a fraction of a millimetre. With that feature I placed a piece of timber vertically behind where the vice is placed on the wall, then covered it with a wardrobe side that was 18mm pine, this then takes the pressure when I use the raised aforementioned metal piece to hold stuff in place.

    I use a series of timber blocks, either length way or side way and a small strip in the front to take the metal piece direct to stop damage to the material being held. It has been a most effective feature and one that is invaluable when assembling drawers, boxes and other stuff as it really works a treat. Anything that is too wide for the vice also is placed in the same vice set-up.

    Mick.
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