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    I had a similar problem when I flattened mine last year. Is made out of Tas oak and the grain made it very difficult to plane without tear out. I just planed it 90 degrees across to get it flat then between 45 to 60 degrees to clean up a bit(very light cut), then finished of with Cabinet scraper and sanding with 80grit. I also do have a sled made up, but I don't think its flat anymore. Your more than welcome to it, might just need sides pulled off and re-straightened.

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    Pac,

    YouTube has The Wood Whisperer episode 174. This is a very good video on how to get the perfect level using a router sled.

    Nathan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawdust Maker View Post
    For a filler in your epoxy you could use coffee grounds

    approach your local coffee shop for some of their waste



    I wouldn't use a belt sander and 60 grit to take the 1 mm hump out of the top - you'd end up with a 2mm (or deeper) scratchy dip/lake bed in no time with resultant woes in removing such.

    If you're getting this tear out you might need a higher angle plane with a finer mouth and finer cut

    I was being tongue in cheek Nick glad you picked up on it though if you'd read my previous post as to the 1mm hump you'd see I had replied to that problem.

    The 60 grit was in relation to Paul's 2nd problem of tear out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pac man View Post
    Dont have a belt belt sander and can't believe I am saying this I will have to agree with SM.
    See my reply to SM above Paul I guess you didn't also click on the link provided.

    Sorry to say but there comes a time planes just won't do the job as has been mentioned on this forum before, hence my list of tools in regards to the 1mm bump NOT the 60 grit comment tongue in cheek for the grain tear out.

    The sander plane/block was a suggestion I actually have my dad's old wooden cement float I use.
    The suggestions I made could be used on the 1mm hump and the whole top to help smooth it off. The experience I draw from is my time working in Fibreglass, sheet metal, panel beating and working with bog to repair dents and scratches on surfaces that are required much finer finish than timber work top.

    I agree with the gents if a plane will do the job then use it if a scrapper will do it then same but at some point sanding is required and jumping to that after filling the tear out and using a body file which has not 1 plane blade but many and can take fine shavings or act as a finishing planer if used right.

    Just trying to assist and help you get this done. I'll go hide back in my corner and watch till its finished.


    This fellow says it well about finish and chasing your tail

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawdust Maker View Post
    Far out, someone agrees with me!
    It was only Paul. Don't get carried away
    Those were the droids I was looking for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pac man View Post
    Skewed but screwed in this case. Have Stanley 112 .
    Use the 112 man, use it.
    I wouldn't bother with a router sled for 1mm. But that's just me. Too noisy and messy.
    Get a section as good as you can with the high angle plane then try to remove any tear out with the 112.
    My desk top was highly figured. Lots of tear out. I got it pretty good with the HNT planes and a card scraper.
    Those were the droids I was looking for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelinround View Post
    See my reply to SM above Paul I guess you didn't also click on the link provided.

    Sorry to say but there comes a time planes just won't do the job as has been mentioned on this forum before, hence my list of tools in regards to the 1mm bump NOT the 60 grit comment tongue in cheek for the grain tear out.

    The sander plane/block was a suggestion I actually have my dad's old wooden cement float I use.
    The suggestions I made could be used on the 1mm hump and the whole top to help smooth it off. The experience I draw from is my time working in Fibreglass, sheet metal, panel beating and working with bog to repair dents and scratches on surfaces that are required much finer finish than timber work top.

    I agree with the gents if a plane will do the job then use it if a scrapper will do it then same but at some point sanding is required and jumping to that after filling the tear out and using a body file which has not 1 plane blade but many and can take fine shavings or act as a finishing planer if used right.

    Just trying to assist and help you get this done. I'll go hide back in my corner and watch till its finished.


    This fellow says it well about finish and chasing your tail

    Ray I did click the link. And watched the video. I agree there is a point where I am just chasing my tail and I am headed there fast.
    (thanks for the lob so I could return serve to Nick. )
    as for disappearing in the background that would be a shame

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    Ok so I found a veritas toothed blade for the Bevel up planes that I ordered as a mistake (coarse) and looked at it went nah it's a bit to coarse and put it back down again. Only to return an hour or so later put it in the plane after sharpening the combs to 50 degrees.
    And away we go ! it's gone well and not made the existing tear out any worse. I am even at the where I am about to break out the 112.

    Ss80 thanks for the offer but I'll see how this goes.
    Iws I'm heading towards the 112. I have the Ww series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCArcher View Post
    Use the 112 man, use it.
    I wouldn't bother with a router sled for 1mm. But that's just me. Too noisy and messy.
    Get a section as good as you can with the high angle plane then try to remove any tear out with the 112.
    My desk top was highly figured. Lots of tear out. I got it pretty good with the HNT planes and a card scraper.
    This is the current plan with the toothy and the scraper

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pac man View Post
    This is the current plan with the toothy and the scraper
    Even better. Probably the two best weapons against the evil tear out. A toothed blade and a scraper. I have faith.
    Those were the droids I was looking for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NCArcher View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by FenceFurniture View Post
    And withdrawal.
    Yep
    Those were the droids I was looking for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelinround View Post
    I was being tongue in cheek Nick glad you picked up on it though if you'd read my previous post as to the 1mm hump you'd see I had replied to that problem.

    The 60 grit was in relation to Paul's 2nd problem of tear out.
    Sorry Ray, didn't seem tongue in cheek and I had seen your earlier post.

    IMHO It had to be addressed as any use of a belt sander usually results in a complete stuff up as they take a lot off quickly especially if using 60 grit
    any inexperienced person could be led astray by such a comment

    The link doesn't add anything to the overall impression and contrary to suggestion I did look at it.

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    Paul is a man of incredible observational powers and should not be belittled, especially in this context !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawdust Maker View Post
    Sorry Ray, didn't seem tongue in cheek and I had seen your earlier post.

    IMHO It had to be addressed as any use of a belt sander usually results in a complete stuff up as they take a lot off quickly especially if using 60 grit
    any inexperienced person could be led astray by such a comment

    The link doesn't add anything to the overall impression and contrary to suggestion I did look at it.



    Paul is a man of incredible observational powers and should not be belittled, especially in this context !

    I can see your point I guess....... Paul hanging onto a belt sander 60grit adorned just to remove a 1mm lump OR he could organise a GtG and we could have belt sander races and smooth it for him. He could always use 120 grit instead.

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    Coffee's on!
    The grind was not terribly fine so I think there will be another go down the track.

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