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7th June 2012, 01:50 PM #1New Member
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Another Roubo
Yet another roubo, this time 2, an old one and a new one. The old one I saw in Briancon in France earlier this year . It looks ancient , could even be 18th century. The other I finished a month ago. It was largely inspired by Groggy and Derek Cohen . Derek was a month ahead of me and I got valuable tips from him along the way .Thank you for sharing
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I decided to go with Benchcrafted vices and use recycled wood. The oregon was picked up at the local tip and the hardwood ( blue gum?) from a dismantled pergola at homeI only bought one piece of wood- oregon - and that was expensive
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There was a lot of initial preparation - nail removal, belt sander, thicknesser
I started with the dog strip, making it slightly oversize so that I could make 90% on the table saw
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I also made dogs across the bench. Despite googling dozens of Roubo benches, I never saw one with dogs across the bench. My 20 year old bench ( also oregon and self made ) had one and it was invaluable. It enyails having a dog on the vice , which I will show later.
The lay-up caused a certain amount of anxiey but was qquite straightforward , apart from the sheer size of the thing. Flettening was aided by using mainle wooden planes ( easier to push and much lighter) and finishing off with my trusy Lie Nielsen
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I fixed the end with four C-bolts . I did not want to have any exposed bolt heads . The C-bolts were easy to tighten
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I used forstner bits to make mortices in the hardwood legs. The oregon top was mostly done by hand, although I did use a router as well
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I dry fitted the legs and glued and dowelled the mortices . I don't like this method as you get only one chance, having driven home the dowels- no opportunity for adjustments.
I made my dowels from recycled English oak (an old desk , picked up at the roadside).Using a cove bit in the router and a home made dowel maker ( a steel bed bracket) the resulting dowels were pretty good
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When it came to the bench top, I decided to make steel "dowels", which I can remove later , if required, without drilling out
I used 4 inch lag bolts, rounded off the hex face and cut a screwdriver slot . Lubricating with lanolin and using my very old Stanley spiral screwdriver ( terrific torque) it all went well
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I like the look of square dowels so , using a bit from a morticer, I cut the holes and plugged with some queen ebony ( Xanthostemon melanoxylon) from the Solomons
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Here are some vies of the finished bench. I used a mix of tung oil, polyurethane and turps
The thistle motif on the vice has a button which releases a spring loaded dog. There is another at the rear of the bench
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7th June 2012, 03:29 PM #2
Ok Ochaye
That is a real beauty. I am a big fan of this style of bench and am in the process of collecting materials myself.
The thing that appeals with your bench is the contrasting timbers. Light timber on top so you can see what you're doing and that marvellous rich red for the legs is just magnificent.
You don't give the dimensions, but the bench looks terrific.
Regards
PaulBushmiller;
"Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely!"
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7th June 2012, 08:56 PM #3
Now that bench has a familiar look!
Terrific work.
Have you used it yet - can you say a little of your experience?
Regards from Perth
DerekVisit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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8th June 2012, 04:48 PM #4
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8th June 2012, 06:45 PM #6New Member
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Thanks for the comments. Bushmiller, the size is 7 feet 3 long, 22 inches wide and 34 inches high . The top is 4 and a quarter inches thick, legs about 3 and a half inches square .
Yes, Derek , I have used it and have the following comments:
It is surprisingly easy to move around. I can slide it with one hand .I have a painted chipboard floor and I waxed the bottom of the legs during building . I'm wondering if I should have bothered with the wax as it is too easily moved
I am making a Krenov cabinet now and the bench is a dream for holding , particularly the tail vice . Silky smooth and instant grip.
The face vice is also silky smooth and Jameel is right, you can give one spin to hold the piece . However, when I was edge planing the 3/8 inch back panel there was no way of holding the end of the thin work , without using a large clamp.It had 7 pieces which makes 14 clamps/unclamps . I will be making a device which sits on top of ( slides into ) the sliding deadman . As it is , the deadman is only of use for pieces wider than about 8 inches. The device will have 2 or more prongs to fit into the deadman and simply moved up or down. I am surprised I have not seen one. I will post a pic when it is made
I have always used round dogs before now but I am sold on square ones - also silky smooth ( Mine are made of tallow - a greasy wood - which helps)
So I guess in summary - so far it is silky smooth and holds like a leech
Regards,
Brian
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8th June 2012, 10:49 PM #7
Nicely done.
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8th June 2012, 11:04 PM #8
Looks very smart
well done
I hope you and your family get a generation or four use from the benchregards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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9th June 2012, 12:13 AM #9Junior Senior Member
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Nice bench. Thanks for sharing
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9th June 2012, 01:14 AM #10
Wow. Great bench! Congrats
I'm glad you included the pic of the bench in Briançon, because it brings up something that I haven't seen discussed. None of the benches I've seen in France ever has a tail vice, just the leg vice and the hold downs. I'm not challenging the usefulness or anything, I just wonder when the tail vice appeared?
Cheers...I'll just make the other bits smaller.
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9th June 2012, 09:34 AM #11
Nice work ochaye, It's always good to see timber recyled.
I always kind of assumed the hand made, all timber tailvise was Scandinavian. I did a bit of a search and only found this.
A Short History of Workbenches - Fine Woodworking Article
Apparently the french didn't have any( edit MANY ) vices ( ) but the medieval Germans did.Last edited by Ball Peen; 9th June 2012 at 10:53 AM. Reason: More info
Cheers, Bill
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9th June 2012, 10:21 AM #12
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28th July 2012, 12:47 PM #13
Very nice work indeed Brian. As others have said the contrasting timbers look terrific. Whilst I'm very fond of Douglas Fir, how did you find it went for flatness when planing? I've often found that there are still little highs and lows between the softer (paler) timber and the harder (darker) parts (I'm sure there are technical terms for those).
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29th July 2012, 09:38 AM #15Skwair2rownd
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Great bench!!
I was so pleased to read that you are a member of the Grand Amalgamated Union of Recyclers too! Have a greenie on those two counts!!
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