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25th March 2018, 02:02 PM #1
Tail vice uses
My bench has extended overhang to accommodate a traditional tail vice but I'm not sure how much I would use one. This is mainly because I don't understand what advantage they have. Several posts I have seen indicate that they are the best option for some types of work and I'm after some examples of this.
I know there are a number of tail vice users here so I wonder if some of you can please post a photo or two of examples where the tail vice is the best type for the job along with a brief explanation of why.
Thanks in anticipation .Cheers, Bob the labrat
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25th March 2018, 03:22 PM #2.
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I did have grand plans to use dogs and the two vices together to affect faster glue ups without using clamps but in 10 years I have only used it this way a couple of times.
I also have a removable corner vice (which I spent a lot of time making) that is held in place to the bench by the tail vice and have used the corner vice about the same number of times
The main use I have for my tail vice is it's the vice I use when the main vice is occupied usually with a glue up or holding a jig etc.
I could take out or maybe use clamps on what is being held in the main vice but it's usually just quicker and easier to use the other vice.
I find it's better than having a second vice on the same side of the bench as the main vice because they can conflict with each other.
If had enough shed space for a free standing bench I would probably fit some form of vice to at least 3 sides of my bench. I have 4 vices in the metal working side of the shed for the same reasons.
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26th March 2018, 04:05 PM #3
I use mine to hold boards for edge and face planing.
the vise when teamed with a row of dog holes works a treat.
one caveat, when the board gets a little thin it is too easy to clamp a bow into it, with not nice consequences when face planing.regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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27th March 2018, 10:40 AM #4
Tail vises..... oh let me count the ways!
Hi Labr@, I am a very heavy user of tail vises but firstly, I should also explain that my workbench is currently against a wall and so I can only access it from one side and limited (= cluttered?) access to the ends. I actually have 2 tail vises and they are on the same end!
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As as you can see, I had to get ‘creative’ to mount my HNT tail vise by setting it into the bench and in line with the closest row of dog holes. There are 3 rows of dog holes, 2 circular and one rectangular. The circular holes are aligned to the 2 outer dogs on the big tail vise AND the HNT wheras the centre rectangular dog holes align with the centre dog on the big tail vise. The lateral spacing of the dog holes is less than the movement of the vise/s and so I can positively clamp ANYTHING that is shorter than the full length of the bench and with NO obstructions such as freehand clamps above the surface. Most darksiders (and me if anyone is watching ) use the tail vise to clamp regular and irregular shaped workpieces to plane, chisel, sand etc....
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..... however, probably my most common use is clamping jigs and fixtures to the bench top for safer and more accurate use. These jigs and fixtures include my ancient gasket cutter (for cutting LARGE circular photo-mounting mats), my homemade wet stone holders...
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.... and even my INCREDIBLY EXTRAVAGANT Bridge City Tools chopstick maker!
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I also have a traditional plane stop on the far end of the bench in line with the front row of dog holes....
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AND, to complete my vise portfolio, I have a traditional Dawn 4” vise bolted to a batten that clamps into my front woodworking vise...
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BTW, the Dawn 4” vise was given to me on my 7th birthday because Dad thought I might need one ?
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27th March 2018, 10:50 AM #5.
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27th March 2018, 07:37 PM #6
Thanks for the photos Fletty. Maybe my terminology is wrong - I think of your type of vice as a "wagon vice". The tail vice I'm talking about is the L shaped type.
As for your dad, he sounds like a man of great wisdom and foresight.Cheers, Bob the labrat
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27th March 2018, 08:03 PM #7a rock is an obsolete tool ......... until you don’t have a hammer!
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27th March 2018, 09:27 PM #8
Holding short stuff ...
Holding long stuff ...
I posted not long ago about making a metal serrated planing stop on a bench dog ..
Well, I added one to the end vise as well. Super holding power!
In that photo is also a Doe's Foot, which is another form of tail vise. More in that link above.
Regards from Perth
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29th March 2018, 04:05 PM #9
And I am the opposite of BobL. I mailnly use my face vise when the end vise is busy. Not sure why; just the way of the world.
If the bench is away from the wall then access may be a little easier around the end vise.
Note the differentiation between end vise, tail vise and wagon vise.
Cheers
Graeme
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