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3rd March 2010, 09:31 PM #211.
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Groggy, not sure if you have found something yet, but as you know I make benches and when im asked for heavy duty tops I look no further than 33mm MR Chipboard (can laminate two together for 66mm - perfect for a Jet/Trupro/Record vice)) Rock hard and rigid. Perfect for an 1800mm length.
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3rd March 2010, 09:54 PM #212
Terry, thanks mate. I just posted that I have found some timber in 3m lengths that I will use. An 1800mm span needs something very rigid and the connection to the legs is by tenons (which are already cut). I also want a carriage vise and chipboard won't suit as well as timber. The front vise will be a leg vice.
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6th March 2010, 04:42 PM #213
Pulling nails
The fun part of getting second hand timber is making sure you get all the nails and metal out before you ask your mate to feed it through his thicknesser, that way you get to keep your mates
A couple of steps to make sure the nails are all found:
1. blast the surface with compressed air to get the crud off.
2. carefully go over the surface with a metal detector and mark each nail with chalk.
3. knock out the easy ones with a nail punch or drift.
4. for the ones fired in by a nail gun, first curse the woodworking gods for abandoning you, then go and get a drill, bit, needlenose pliers and some multi-grips.
5. drill around the nail, blow the waste out with air then grip with the needlenose pliers.
6. Grip the needlenose pliers with the multigrips and lift the nail out. Curse the woodworking gods again then repeat for the next nail.
7. When complete, re-scan each face to make sure they are all gone.
All the nails pictured came from one length of timber. I originally saw only 1/3 that many.
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6th March 2010, 05:38 PM #214
Groggy, you'd do well to invest in a decent nail puller. I don't know who sells new pullers in Australia, but second hand ones crop up on eBay every now and then. Maybe one of the second hand tool dealers might have one.
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I know you believe you understand what you think I wrote, but I'm not sure you realize that what you just read is not what I meant.
Regards, Woodwould.
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6th March 2010, 05:39 PM #215
Hi Groggy,
Holy smoke mate, did you say 140mm thick? Roubo eat your heart out. This is going to be one solid bench. Can't wait to see this one go together. Just love bench threads.
Cheers
Pops
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6th March 2010, 05:53 PM #216
HA, the fun of pulling nails
Telephone poles are fun tooCheers
DJ
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6th March 2010, 06:18 PM #217
Agreed, but the spare cash went on the metal detector and timber. I had a look at the nails and decided I could get away with using tools I already had to get the nails out.
I think it will end up being 120mm depending on what happens when I work out the cutting. There are some notches and other bits that I may need to plane away depending on which side ends up facing up. Fortunately the grain appears to be pretty straight with very few knots.
I forgot to invite you along for the fun, I will remember next time
I'll have to wait a few weeks to get more done as my son's 21st is next weekend.
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6th March 2010, 06:21 PM #218
I forgot to mention, where I have bored holes to get nails out I will use the Domino to patch them. I just need to make some dominos out of the same material.
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6th March 2010, 07:52 PM #219anne-maria.
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6th March 2010, 08:29 PM #220
A whole arvo (I'm guessing) pulling nails ...
Groggy you should have set the kids to do the menial stuff - that's what they get older for, at least that's how I served my time many moons ago.
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6th March 2010, 08:35 PM #221
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6th March 2010, 08:44 PM #222Skwair2rownd
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Now that lot should make a suitably gnarly an grizzled top!!!. Pre-stressed too!!
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7th March 2010, 05:01 PM #223
Fun time today docking the posts to rough length. They are pretty heavy and I have a lot of jointing and thicknessing to do so I thought I'd cut off the excess. Days like today I am glad I have the 12" saw, even so it barely made it through in one cut.
I have to admit that the $5.50 300mm blades that I bought from Saw And Bits were one of the best buys I have had in a long, long time. The blade pictured has already cut a fair bit of timber and it cut through these posts without a worry in the world. I was a bit concerned the blade may heat and bind, but no, it left a beautiful finish and the saw didn't even slow down.
You can see in the pic how the blade barely makes it through the top. Cutting these posts is the first time I have felt my 300kg saw move. The sliding table was feeling the weight too.
Thanks to Kiwibrucee for helping me to move these big suckers around
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9th March 2010, 02:54 AM #224
Interesting work so far.
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9th March 2010, 08:48 AM #225Eschew obfuscation
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Great thread Groggy, it's taken quite a while to work through it all. All your pics have really brought your bench to life. I'd hate to be around the first time it takes a ding!
I just found this forum - you'll see my post count isn't very high - while looking for ideas on fitting out a new shed. A workbench is high on the list, so I'm casting around for ideas. I'm really impressed with your clamp storage. Like all good ideas, it's pretty obvious in hindsight. If my shed layout will give me room at the end of the bench I'll be "borrowing" your idea!
Having used your WOB for far too long, what are your thoughts on hardwood vs softwood as a bench material? The purist in me wants to use hardwood, but the practical part of me is saying I should go with cheap pine for my first. Guaranteed there will be something about it I don't like, and if I use expensive/good timber in it I'll end up using it anyway for too long. I have a fair amount of old treated pine, but I don't want to use that either, it's nasty stuff. Hmm, just had a thought - a timber place not far away has a huge stack of old railway sleepers. That might work. Be interesting trying to work with it though when I have no bench.
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