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    Cool Change of mind

    After doing a bit more reading I've decided I don't need stretchers at the top of the bench. If I mortise the legs into the top and dowel them there should be no movement and stretchers would add little to anti-wracking. Also, the stretchers may actually be a negative in that they would limit the clamps I could use plus they may get in the way of bench dogs and holdfasts.

    So, the top stretchers were mated to the bottom to beef them up a bit. I haven't drilled the holdfast holes yet or cut the tenons, maybe next week. The legs have the edge routing complete and are waiting for the holdfast holes to be drilled.

    In picture #2 you may notice a larger profile routed in the front stretcher. This is the beginning of the rail for the dead-man to slide on.

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    Looking good Groggy. Finished item is awaited wih baited breath>

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    This is going to take a while so you may as well get comfy.

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    I'm comfy.




















    So are you done yet.





    So what did you end up going down the path of, the Holtzapfel? Or a bit of a bitsa from here and there?
    I make things, I just take a long time.

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    It's going well mate.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Waldo View Post
    So what did you end up going down the path of, the Holtzapfel? Or a bit of a bitsa from here and there?
    It is a Holtzapffel/Roubo hybrid. Mainly a Roubo but with a Holtzapffel style top and vises. It will have a deadman and leg vise, plus an end-vise of sorts (not sure yet).

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    Default Legs almost ready

    Had a bit of time today as it was "father's" day and SWMBO let me off other chores for the day

    I have now got the legs ready to tenon but won't cut those until the mortises are ready in the feet. The feet have been glued up and will be dimensioned next week I hope.

    Couple of pics of the legs, the first shows the fronts, second is side and back and the third shows the drill press and home-made table used to drill the holes. What is not shown is the clamps used at either end of the legs to hold them during drilling. I used a quality forstner bit for the holes as I did not want to tear out the flutes.

    The flutes serve two purposes, the first is obviously for looks, the second is to give me some purchase on a dog if it gets knocked flush with the leg; the 12mm flute is just enough to grab the tip with the fingers or and pull it out again.

    The dogs in the bench legs are to give support to oversized work and to be a place to store things (like bench dogs and hold downs).

    Last pic is the feet block glue-up.

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    There is a big difference in the colors of the legs, from different trees?

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    Looking good.

    I'm envious - so many parallel clamps. I ordered a few from Rockler a couple of months back, and the postage cost more than the clamps.

    It's probably too late, but the latest issue of Popular Woodworking has an article on the "21st century workbench". Interesting article, and you might be able to pick up a few ideas for some last minute design modifications.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timberbits View Post
    There is a big difference in the colors of the legs, from different trees?
    The timber came from a forums timber buy from QLD. The lighter colour legs are the back and darker ones for the front. I've laminated the timber so I could use up the wood that I had left, I don't want to buy timber specifically for the bench so am making do with what I have.

    Quote Originally Posted by Des.K. View Post
    It's probably too late, but the latest issue of Popular Woodworking has an article on the "21st century workbench". Interesting article, and you might be able to pick up a few ideas for some last minute design modifications.
    Thanks Des, I haven't seen that one yet. I want the bench to be fairly traditional as it will be more for neander type activity. I have a couple of other benches better suited to electrical WWing.

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    It's looking good Greg. I really like the look of the legs.

    I hope it doesn't end up like my WIP Workbench. I've built the leg frames and laminated the stretchers which I completed in about 1 week. The rest as the say is history. The history being that about 12 months later, I still have no further progress. Too many other things that have priority I guess.

    To be completely honest, I have 3 WIP Workbenches. Perhaps I need to focus.

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    Thanks for that Boban, I am pretty pleased with the legs myself. I wanted to play around with flutes as practice for later jobs, and the flutes in the sides were an attempt to visually taper the legs. I like the idea of trying these things on shop furniture because it is a visual reminder of what does and does not work. Thankfully the legs worked. I have also put a flute in the stretchers, just one, to carry the lines between the legs, that didn't work as well but I'm hoping it will look better when assembled - if not, I still have a reminder not to do it again .

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    It is gunna be a swish desk Groggy, bit good for woodwork.
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    I should have mentioned that I learned a bit about flutes doing this. For next time I WILL be building a jig with a ramp at the end so I don't get burning in the end of the flute. Also, I found that hand guiding with the standard fence is pretty agricultural, you really need a template guide to get consistent, error free, results.

    I was darn lucky that the two or three dimples I had in the flutes just so happened to match where the dog holes went (ok, so maybe the hole distances were varied ever so slightly to make them disappear )

    The dog holes were cut in three steps:
    • forstner in DP for 3/4 way through,
    • spade bit till the centre point just broke through the other side, then
    • forstner from the back to complete the holes with no tearout. You must have a good sharp forstner when cutting across the flutes otherwise it will tear up the edges.

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    Good work Groggy, I really like your legs, they are beautiful.

    I am a bit like you, I don't normally go out of my way to buy more wood for a project. If it is for myself then I always use whatever I have in the shed. If it means the legs will look different then so be it. It is for me and I like it that way.

    Why don't you drill the holes all the way through to the other end? It would be easier to remove the dogs by pushing it from the other side. Don't you think?
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