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3rd March 2018, 07:38 PM #31SENIOR MEMBER
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Best not to use invaluables website. Going through Small and Whitfield's website you'll find they have their own online bidding portal that is updated as bidding takes place in real time. Small and Whitfield also list their buyers premium as 15% plus GST whereas Intervaluable list theirs as 25% so they are taking 10% premium for literally mimicking what Small and Whitfield provide for free. From what I can gather that is.
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3rd March 2018, 08:07 PM #32GOLD MEMBER
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3rd March 2018, 08:08 PM #33Senior Member
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Didn't see the previous post. Sorry. The dollar amount is probably a reserve price.
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3rd March 2018, 08:13 PM #34SENIOR MEMBER
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3rd March 2018, 08:24 PM #35
It would be interesting to see what things go for. The auction house in question normally deals in antiques. I have never been in however often see what they are unloading for coming auctions. I would suspect that they do not move many tools through the books so it wouldn't be considered a regular hot spot for tool hunters. Further to this Adelaide doesn't really have a massive woodworking community with much fewer clubs than over east, so I wouldn't suspect huge local interest. They are also a fairly specialised item that wouldn't have a super wide appeal. It might be a chance to get a good deal. Unfortunately nothing of particular interest to me.
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3rd March 2018, 08:47 PM #36GOLD MEMBER
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3rd March 2018, 08:48 PM #37
It's an amazing collection, I hope the family have kept some pieces.
My grandfather's workshop was broken up (after his passing) when I was in my teens. I really wish I was wiser back then and kept some pieces. Somehow I re-aquired his jigsaw years later and I really do cherish it now. It's gotta be 50 years old, hand made wooden box for the tool and blades, engraved with his name, even it's own section for an old flat head screw driver (with the driver still in situ) to change the blades. I love everything about using that tool.
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3rd March 2018, 08:50 PM #38GOLD MEMBER
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6th March 2018, 10:45 AM #39Senior Member
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Hi,
Let me start by saying I don't know this particular auction house. They maybe entirely ethical.
But in order to generate interest some auction houses give estimates that have no relation to the price they expect let alone the reserve. [In NSW this is a breach of the law but as the law is never enforced ...] I have bid above the upper limit on a number of occasions only to have the item "referred" [passed in]. Later to be called by the auction house and asked if I wanted to pay 20% or more above my highest bid. Sometimes even cheerfully telling me that they have been working on the vendor to lower the reserve to only 20% above a bid already exceeding the high end of the range.
I Just wouldn't want someone to get their hopes up only to be disappointed.
On the other hand the big money in tool collection is in the USA and a regional auction in Australia may not attract any of them.
cheers
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6th March 2018, 06:39 PM #40Member
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Not intending to hijack this but has anyone else seen this auction? C20th Design including Holden EJ Utility + other items from a Sydney North Shore Estate matter - Lawsons - Auctioneers, Sydney and Melbourne Those berg chisels look so tempting.
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8th March 2018, 09:16 PM #41
I have had a couple of members who have contacted me via PM regarding pickup. I have just sent out a reply via PM to those who made contact. Best of luck on Saturday.
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10th March 2018, 07:00 PM #42Member
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10th March 2018, 08:17 PM #43
Any bargains to be had? I should have bid, decided the whole shipping thing would be too much trouble.
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10th March 2018, 08:44 PM #44GOLD MEMBER
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The feeling I got was that less expensive items sold for more then their worth, while the expensive items (like the many smoothing planes) sold for less then their worth.
I bid on a few items. My choices were mixed lots and seeing there was only one photo, from which you often couldn’t reckon the quality or maker or even the number of items, then people who couldn’t inspect the items personally were at a distinct disadvantage.
For example, I was interested in this lot https://www.invaluable.com/auction-l...2-c-8614c32be8 . The gouges at front look like Addis, in which case they were a real bargain at $250, or maybe they were just nameless old gouges which someone puts an Addis-style handle on like I do, in which case they are pretty much worthless. Hard to know without being there. I guess most of the lots which were individual tools were a safer bet.Apologies for unnoticed autocomplete errors.
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10th March 2018, 09:04 PM #45
It was certainly a big auction. Started at 10:00am and finished at 6:00pm. I only went between 5:30 and 6:00 to do some collections for other members. It was quite an impressive display with all of the lots laid out. I was keeping an eye on the online auction during the day. There seems to be an oversupply of wooden planes and they seemed to sell for low prices compared to the quoted estimates. The chisels and metal planes seemed to get more interest which pushed the prices up. Quality of what I saw seemed to be very high on the majority of items and I would suggest based off the collection everything would have been legitimate. The overwhelming quantity perhaps influenced the prices, as a single collection I have no idea how the collector handled them all.
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