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18th May 2019, 12:05 AM #1Cbig Guest
Stanley Bailey 4 1/2 Made in England
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18th May 2019, 06:48 AM #2
Your research may be slightly off, Stanley didn’t produce planes in England until 1937
Yours looks to have been made somewhere between 1945 and 1983; going by the sloppy fit of the frog over the central aligning rib it’ll be from the later end of that range.
I notice you also have this advertised on Ebay?Nothing succeeds like a budgie without a beak.
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18th May 2019, 08:01 AM #3Cbig Guest
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18th May 2019, 08:05 AM #4Senior Member
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I think Chief's point was, it's uncool to do that but also it's against the marketplace basic rules, as per BASIC Market Place rules PLEASE READ point 6.
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18th May 2019, 10:14 AM #6Cbig Guest
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18th May 2019, 10:21 AM #7Cbig Guest
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18th May 2019, 10:08 PM #8
No, Stanley planes made after 1983 are still sloppy!
The first planes manufactured with the ogee shouldered frog still used tight tolerances, the central rib in the base and the mating gap in the frog had machined surfaces that essentially allowed the frog to slide back and forth with hardly any lateral movement or twist. Over the years in order to cut manufacturing costs the rib was made smaller and the gap larger until no machining was needed at all. By 1983 the tolerances were so large that the rib and gap essentially served no purpose any longer other than cosmetic and if you ever adjusted the frog you had to manually twist it in its bed to ensure that it was correctly aligned to the mouth, central and square. Coupled with equally poorly machined faces in the base and frog it meant that getting everything properly bedded together and aligned to the mouth was a PITA. Assuming of course that the mouth had been cut properly.
In 1983 the models all changed and the fractional numbers were dropped, but essentially nothing was improved. Shortly afterwards they binned the wooden parts and introduced the black plastic handle and knob that are still made now.
The rise of hand power tools caused the decline in demand for quality hand tools, smoothing planes were no longer used for polishing wood to an almost glass-like finish because Black and Decker et al were selling cheap orbital sanders that didn’t need you to develop skills in setting and using planes or sharpening blades. As the demand dropped so did the quality in a bid to bolster sales. What Stanley now sell in Bunnings under the “Bailey” lable is about as low quality a plane can be made while still having the ability to be fettled by the user to perform well, providing he has the knowledge and skill to do so. Unfettled, the plane performs no better than the cheaper and much nastier Stanley “Handyman” series... good for cutting thick-ish shavings out of construction pine, or using as a paperweight.Nothing succeeds like a budgie without a beak.
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18th May 2019, 10:18 PM #9
THESE “vintage” Supacraft abominations are as low as it is possible to go!
Nothing succeeds like a budgie without a beak.
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