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26th May 2023, 12:35 PM #1Novice
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New Guinea Rosewood
We have a large (1500 diameter or 1500x2100 extended), heavy pedestal table that we need to move on, and have been unable to sell as a table so we thought it might be useable as timber for projects. We're only selling as it's too big for our dining room, and we don't want to put it into the BBQ area for fear of damage. from moisture The table top is finger jointed, about 60mm thick and solid, not veneered. The base is a combination of solid and finger jointed.
Trying to gauge interest in selling the table for the wood alone, especially since this timber is now rare. The table is probably 20+ years old, we got it second hand ten years ago and do not know its exact provenance, except that the original owner lived in PNG and brought it with them when they returned to Australia.
We would like $850 but if there is genuine interest we are open to negotiation. Location is Geelong, and this thing is easily 100kg (it comes apart into five pieces) so you will need a trailer. If you just want a table, it works as a table too!
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26th May 2023, 12:56 PM #2Intermediate Member
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OMG…wish you were in Sydney.
There must be at least one luthier in this forum. Great timber for guitars, if tightly grained.
Should not need GLWTS, IMHO.
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26th May 2023, 01:14 PM #3GOLD MEMBER
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Would be worth putting some closeup pics up so members can see the dimensions of the boards they can recover from it, as the fingerjointed boards might be 50mm wide or they might be 150mm or 200mm wide, obviously the latter being more usable.
I've seen many tables with really narrow f/jointed boards, also end f/jointed as well, which makes it hard to get any useful timber out of it unless your making small stuff like door stops, box sides, etc.
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26th May 2023, 01:37 PM #4Novice
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The turned legs look to be solid. I can't get under the table to see whether the horizontal supports are solid or jointed.
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26th May 2023, 02:36 PM #5
Truth is you may get some interest at around $25, up to $100 if you’re lucky but I doubt it.
$850 or close to that, Never .
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26th May 2023, 03:07 PM #6GOLD MEMBER
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Given the top is 50mm wide strips ( I kinda suspected that), I'd be really surprised if the legs weren't solid and are really well matched boards laminated.
So far as price goes, I think auscab was pretty right in the upper amount. I wouldn't imagine anyone would build anything from it as is because they wouldn't know if the glue used will last, etc. So to my mind the only options are to re-fingerjoint/laminate it, which means ripping and re-machining, or to use it for small projects, but as it's made of narrow strips, once you rip it all up, and cut the fingerjoint flush you're not left with much, so it's diminishing returns and a real lot of work to reclaim usable timber from it.
I'd probably pay $100 stretching it to maybe $150 if I was really wanting some more NGR, and I would rip it all up for using on small stuff. Most I expect will be wanting larger sections to deal with.
I don't know about it being rare though, from my experience NGR timber isn't at all hard to get by the way and isn't overly expensive at all. I've also bought a bunch of boards cheap from Zimbo on this forum.
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26th May 2023, 03:58 PM #7GOLD MEMBER
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New Guinea Rosewood is readily available at timber suppliers like Brittons or Mathews. It’s not particularly expensive.
Given the narrow board widths of this table and the effort required to disassemble it, strip the finish off etc I think the asking price is very optimistic. I suggest Auscab’s assessment is on the money.
regards,
Brian
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26th May 2023, 05:53 PM #8Senior Member
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My suggestion would be to find someone who could use the table instead.
In regards to rarity, there are other types of rosewood e.g. Brazilian rosewood, Nicaraguan rosewood aka cocobolo which have endangered status and are restricted for trade under CITES listing. New guinea rosewood is readily available and as per Wikipedia as quoted below while New Guinea rosewood is known as rosewood, it is a different type of wood.
"Other: The timber trade sells many timbers under the name 'rosewood' (usually with an adjective) due to some (outward) similarities. A fair number of these timbers come from other legume genera; one such species that is often mentioned is Bolivian Machaerium scleroxylon sold as 'Bolivian rosewood'. Another that may be found in market from Southeast Asia is Pterocarpus indicus, sold as 'New Guinea rosewood' (and related species)."
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26th May 2023, 11:05 PM #9Novice
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OK everyone, points well taken. Thanks for the feedback.
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28th May 2023, 10:18 AM #10Novice
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Withdrawn
Comments confirm it is not useable as woodworking timber. Thanks for the input.
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18th June 2023, 08:09 PM #11
Sorry, Cecile, but I agree with your conclusion and the advice that you have received.
I use a lot of salvaged timber but your table would not yield a lot of usable material:
- legs are round, probably need to square them before you can use them ....
- Top is a bit over half a square metre. But broken down, probably less than 0.25 m2 usable ....
- Sad!
But if you had a use for a round rosewood table top, then brilliant!
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