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17th August 2009, 12:22 PM #16
hmmmm....need to talk with the broker about buying stock in duct tape
Cheers,
Ed
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17th August 2009, 12:25 PM #17
Wow! That looks awesome!
Thanks for sharing.
Cheers,
Dave...but together with the coffee civility flowed back into him
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17th August 2009, 07:24 PM #18
You nuked the HMG twice didn't you? Once to push the piece further in, and then again to separate? It sounds as though during one of those times it became runny enough to soak into the end-grain?
When I use the stuff I try not to push the pieces up close together, so the HMG is a 0.5mm(ish) layer that easily separates... and the scraps are thick enough to simply peel off the work in one or two strips.
Not much help to you now, though.
Depending on the brand/type of hotmelt glue, there may be a solvent. I think that most are soluble in MEK, cyclohexanone or tetrachloroethylene (sp?), while some are soluble in acetone. Without running out to the shed to check my handbook, the "general purpose" solution I was given (by a shoe mfr.) is 1/3 parts of MEK, acetone & toluene.
A simpler possibility is a paper towel laid over the top, then attack it with a hair-dryer - to wick up as much as possible.
Somehow, I think that the easiest solution would be to call this one a "prototype" and use the lessons learned to make a new, improved version.
(Which is exactly what I'm doing with my winged thing. If I can find some spare time! )
- Andy Mc
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17th August 2009, 10:12 PM #19
Talk about setting the bar high - that's terrific
regards
Nick
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17th August 2009, 10:17 PM #20
That's amazing!
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17th August 2009, 11:21 PM #21
Oh but it gets worse!!! When I clamped it up I must have skewed it to buggery and when the glue has released it's grip, everything is seriously out of whack .
For Sale - 2 barely used Hot-melt glue guns
MEK????? is ........???
Which is exactly what I'm doing - if I can find the spare time!
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17th August 2009, 11:41 PM #22
All done!
After an hour or 2 of picking off hot-melt-bloody-glue I got it to the stage where I could sit the 2 halves together for a look - - - - and bugger me if it hadn't popped sideways about a half mil' or so. You have to really apply a lot of pressure to get it to line up again -
Decided I might as well give it a coat of oil and take some pics anyway. The first pic shows how far it moved sideways from squeezing it up in the vice - a lesson learned there!
Other lessons learned....
Accuracy is not my forte'.
Make blocks SQUARE next time.
Stick to the plan - mount on faceplate instead of jaws.
Don't join/locate with a sleeve. Stick to original plan of dowel pins in the ends of the board.
HMG is not my friend.
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17th August 2009, 11:54 PM #23
I like the way it finished up, just the same.
MEK = Methyl Ethyl Ketone. Basically an industrial solvent that's quite a bit safer than acetone. (MEK MSDS)
Which is exactly what I'm doing - if I can find the spare time!
- Andy Mc
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18th August 2009, 08:46 AM #24
Vern sometimes your work leaves me in awe of your ability on the lathe.
Great stuff and i bet when you have a second go it will be perfect.
The bar is way above my head.
Cheersregards
David
"Tell him he's dreamin.""How's the serenity" (from "The Castle")
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18th August 2009, 09:21 AM #25
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18th August 2009, 10:54 AM #26
Looks great! I bet the next one will be perfect, now you've ironed out the wooffles in the process.
anne-maria.
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18th August 2009, 11:07 AM #27
That's amazing! I love the asymetrical look when it's open. Very, Very cool!
Don't care if you reckon it's not perfect. Near enough for me!
Cheers,
Dave...but together with the coffee civility flowed back into him
Patrick O'Brian, Treason's Harbour
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18th August 2009, 07:47 PM #28
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18th August 2009, 10:04 PM #29Senior Member
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TTIT bowl
Hi TTIT
Great piece of work and a good comentry, following instructions from manual you dont get the tricks of the particular detail but with members telling of their mistakes and problems we can all learn because Someone make a mistake here we will remember it better.
With the HMG I think it was Brendon Stemp at Turnfest applied glue to both surfaces in a very casual manner and looked like the glue had gone off before attempting to make the join then picked up the hot air gun and heated the glue on both surfaces realy hot then made the bond and as he explained the surfaces are cold to the glue and it sets on the surface before it gets a good hold. Previously I have heated the faceplate a bit to make the glue bond better.
Cheers TonyTony
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18th August 2009, 10:12 PM #30
Excuse my french...
That is friggen awesome!!!!!!!!!!
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