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    hmmmm....need to talk with the broker about buying stock in duct tape
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    Wow! That looks awesome!

    Thanks for sharing.

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    You nuked the HMG twice didn't you? Once to push the piece further in, and then again to separate? It sounds as though during one of those times it became runny enough to soak into the end-grain?

    When I use the stuff I try not to push the pieces up close together, so the HMG is a 0.5mm(ish) layer that easily separates... and the scraps are thick enough to simply peel off the work in one or two strips.

    Not much help to you now, though.

    Depending on the brand/type of hotmelt glue, there may be a solvent. I think that most are soluble in MEK, cyclohexanone or tetrachloroethylene (sp?), while some are soluble in acetone. Without running out to the shed to check my handbook, the "general purpose" solution I was given (by a shoe mfr.) is 1/3 parts of MEK, acetone & toluene.

    A simpler possibility is a paper towel laid over the top, then attack it with a hair-dryer - to wick up as much as possible.

    Somehow, I think that the easiest solution would be to call this one a "prototype" and use the lessons learned to make a new, improved version.

    (Which is exactly what I'm doing with my winged thing. If I can find some spare time! )
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    Talk about setting the bar high - that's terrific
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    That's amazing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skew ChiDAMN!! View Post


    You nuked the HMG twice didn't you? Once to push the piece further in, and then again to separate? It sounds as though during one of those times it became runny enough to soak into the end-grain?

    When I use the stuff I try not to push the pieces up close together, so the HMG is a 0.5mm(ish) layer that easily separates... and the scraps are thick enough to simply peel off the work in one or two strips.

    Not much help to you now, though.
    Oh but it gets worse!!! When I clamped it up I must have skewed it to buggery and when the glue has released it's grip, everything is seriously out of whack .

    For Sale - 2 barely used Hot-melt glue guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Skew ChiDAMN!! View Post
    Depending on the brand/type of hotmelt glue, there may be a solvent. I think that most are soluble in MEK, cyclohexanone or tetrachloroethylene (sp?), while some are soluble in acetone. Without running out to the shed to check my handbook, the "general purpose" solution I was given (by a shoe mfr.) is 1/3 parts of MEK, acetone & toluene.
    MEK????? is ........???

    Quote Originally Posted by Skew ChiDAMN!! View Post
    Somehow, I think that the easiest solution would be to call this one a "prototype" and use the lessons learned to make a new, improved version.

    (Which is exactly what I'm doing with my winged thing. If I can find some spare time! )
    Which is exactly what I'm doing - if I can find the spare time!
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    After an hour or 2 of picking off hot-melt-bloody-glue I got it to the stage where I could sit the 2 halves together for a look - - - - and bugger me if it hadn't popped sideways about a half mil' or so. You have to really apply a lot of pressure to get it to line up again -
    Decided I might as well give it a coat of oil and take some pics anyway. The first pic shows how far it moved sideways from squeezing it up in the vice - a lesson learned there!

    Other lessons learned....

    Accuracy is not my forte'.
    Make blocks SQUARE next time.
    Stick to the plan - mount on faceplate instead of jaws.
    Don't join/locate with a sleeve. Stick to original plan of dowel pins in the ends of the board.
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    I like the way it finished up, just the same.

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    Oh but it gets worse!!! When I clamped it up I must have skewed it to buggery and when the glue has released it's grip, everything is seriously out of whack


    MEK = Methyl Ethyl Ketone. Basically an industrial solvent that's quite a bit safer than acetone. (MEK MSDS)

    Which is exactly what I'm doing - if I can find the spare time!
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    Vern sometimes your work leaves me in awe of your ability on the lathe.

    Great stuff and i bet when you have a second go it will be perfect.

    The bar is way above my head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calm View Post
    Vern sometimes your work leaves me in awe of your ability on the lathe.

    Great stuff and i bet when you have a second go it will be perfect.

    The bar is way above my head.

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    I agree with all the above

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    The only consolation is that he has been at it a week or so longer then me
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    Looks great! I bet the next one will be perfect, now you've ironed out the wooffles in the process.
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    That's amazing! I love the asymetrical look when it's open. Very, Very cool!

    Don't care if you reckon it's not perfect. Near enough for me!

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    Amazing How do you come up with these ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by TTIT View Post
    ..Decided I might as well give it a coat of oil and take some pics anyway...
    So does that mean you intended to go further? Or just because your level of acceptance is far above ours
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    Hi TTIT

    Great piece of work and a good comentry, following instructions from manual you dont get the tricks of the particular detail but with members telling of their mistakes and problems we can all learn because Someone make a mistake here we will remember it better.

    With the HMG I think it was Brendon Stemp at Turnfest applied glue to both surfaces in a very casual manner and looked like the glue had gone off before attempting to make the join then picked up the hot air gun and heated the glue on both surfaces realy hot then made the bond and as he explained the surfaces are cold to the glue and it sets on the surface before it gets a good hold. Previously I have heated the faceplate a bit to make the glue bond better.

    Cheers Tony
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    Excuse my french...

    That is friggen awesome!!!!!!!!!!
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