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    Default Bueller's shed - a noobs journey through vintage machinery

    So some of you may be aware I've been working on acquiring all the tools and machinery I need to set up a workshop at my parents place out in Lower Chittering. I've recently finished up restoring a 10" Woodfast Bandsaw and after today's addition to the shop (details later [emoji2]) I figured I should just have one thread for everything.

    1966 10" Woodfast Bandsaw







    And today's addition... I'd been watching this one on Gumtree for the last week and while the price was good it was out in Helena Valley. I'm limited on space right now too so I put it on my watch list and figured I'd check it out in a week or two if it was still there. Woke up this morning and the seller had dropped the price from $450 to $250, that was all the motivation I needed for the drive. Enough talk, here's the machine in question. Couldn't be happier, I've seen these things selling for 4 times the price.

    1989 Vicmarc VL200 Long Bed










    This came with a single phase CMG 3/4 HP motor which ran well so I'll just be giving it a fresh lick of paint after removing the minor rust. After that I'm on the hunt for a Waldown drill press and some sort of Aussie made 10/12" tilting arbor saw.

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    Just remembered it came with a toolbox of stuff! Will get the gouges and chisels up in some Evaporust but they will probably need a fair bit of work.








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    Restoring machinery has several advantages, you pay less, you can make modifications as you go and you get o see how things work.

    Like the work done so far. I just wonder why a 60s bandsaw has an art deco motiff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by artme View Post
    Restoring machinery has several advantages, you pay less, you can make modifications as you go and you get o see how things work.

    Like the work done so far. I just wonder why a 60s bandsaw has an art deco motiff!
    Restoring the Woodfast taught me how great it is tearing these things down. I know that machine inside and out now, if there's ever a problem it should be a piece of cake to diagnose and fix. I think the art deco look is a hold over from when Woodfast bought out Hyco, a lot of their machines had that style. It's actually one of the things that drew me to it in the first place, one day I hope to find its bigger brother in the same style and restore it.

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    Wow just reading the marketing brochure for the VL200, it weighs 130kg! No wonder I nearly killed myself putting the main beam back on the legs, it must weigh 80kg at least.

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    So the Vicmarc only came with the face plate attached in photos, anyone provide any advice on 4 jawed chucks? Looks like I can get correctly sized Record and Hafco ones from Hare and Forbes locally or there are a few places online that sell the Vicmarc VM100 chucks.

    Hafco + insert = $187
    Vicmarc + insert = $238
    Record + insert = $286

    Not sure on the quality of the Hafco one, I'm tempted to just pick up the Vicmarc one and keep everything original but would love some opinions.

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    Woops. I started fiddling around with the banjo seeing how hard it would be to disassemble and wound up stripping it right down. Actually not too bad, hardest part was getting the rotary handle off the shaft. There was a screw in the handle that marred the surface of the shaft but once I got past that it was smooth sailing.

    Anyway here we go. First I had to get the plate off the bottom of the banjo so I could stand it up without it wobbling. Just removed the circlip on the end of the shaft and it slid right out allowing me to remove the bottom plate and screw.









    Then I took all the hardware off for tightening the live centre shaft and turned the knob until it slid out.













    Next up was the handle and shaft screw. If I had to do this again I'd press the entire lot out by tapping the screw from the inside of the banjo and then remove the handle from the screw.













    Hoping to get this all stripped down over the next week or so, I'm planning on taking a week off work soon so I'm going to try and get it this turned around quickly.

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    Off work crook today so I just spent a couple of minutes pulling the tool rest apart. Liking the way this machine is designed so far, everything seems very solid yet relatively easy to strip down and reassemble.

    Started by removing the tool rest and tension knob then I unscrewed the plate from the bottom of the assembly.





    Removed circlips from each end and then I tapped the shaft out in the direction of the knob. Once that was free I was able to get the screw out as well.







    All done!


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    Headstock is finished. Started out on the outboard side (left) of the headstock and loosened the grub screws on each side of the threaded collar. Locked the headstock and then removed the REVERSE THREADED collar. Unlocked the headstock and removed the locking pin.







    Loosened the grub screw in the pulley and tapped the shaft out of the bearing (don't go too far, it's a keyed shaft) and then removed the bearing. Don't let the photo below confuse you, you'll need to do this while the pulley is in the headstock, I took that photo after I removed it.







    Moved to the right side of the headstock. At the top of the shaft opening (12 o'clock) you can just barely make out a keyway. I tapped the shaft through from the outboard side but once you can see where the key is you'll need to spin the shaft so the key is aligned with the keyway. Once it's aligned you can tap or press the shaft and bearing out through the belt pulley.









    And done!


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    Never seen these type of bearings before, they were definitely much easier to remove though. Only identification I can see on the loose one is below, can't be bothered getting the other one off the shaft yet. They seem to be in good shape but I'll probably replace them anyway, from what I can tell they're not expensive.

    NSK LM67048 JAPAN

    Interested to hear opinions on the flat belt and pulley, is it worth looking into replacing it with a v belt?

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    [QUOTE=bInterested to hear opinions on the flat belt and pulley, is it worth looking into replacing it with a v belt?[/QUOTE]

    Are you sure its a flat belt and not a ribbed belt?
    Ribbed belts have an extremely good grip so they don't need to be that tight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    Are you sure its a flat belt and not a ribbed belt?
    Ribbed belts have an extremely good grip so they don't need to be that tight.
    Cheers!

    I just checked and it's a ribbed belt. That makes life much easier! Pretty much done with disassembly now, just trying to get the outboard rest off its perch but it's being stubborn. Will probably just leave it soaking in some WD40 and hope for the best, not a huge deal if I have to tape it up and spray it as one piece though.

    Next up just a degreaser bath, soapy water and then paint stripper application. Going to hold off on the paint stripper though till I can find a decent match for the paint. Luckily the tool rest is already paint free, I'm just going to use that to test paint on and then compare it to the other parts before I strip them all down.


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    good score on the lathe, should come up well, Are you working in your lounge room?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shedbound View Post
    good score on the lathe, should come up well, Are you working in your lounge room?
    Cheers!

    Haha yeah I've got a small place, I'm usually on my front porch or sitting on my living room floor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bueller View Post
    Never seen these type of bearings before, they were definitely much easier to remove though. Only identification I can see on the loose one is below, can't be bothered getting the other one off the shaft yet. They seem to be in good shape but I'll probably replace them anyway, from what I can tell they're not expensive.

    NSK LM57048 JAPAN

    Interested to hear opinions on the flat belt and pulley, is it worth looking into replacing it with a v belt?
    The bearings are common tapered roller bearings. Important to get the adjustment correct when refitting. Depending on application, they may be adjusted with slight end play (0.1 to 0.2mm is normal); zero end play or slight preload (eg, 1.5Nm). The manual should specify.

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