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    We moved into a brand new rental early last year, with permission to design the garden beds the way we wanted to, personally knowing the owners is a blessing. He is also a sparkie but cannot put 3 phase in which Iam happy about.
    Am now getting around to setting up part of the shed for woodwork again.The time has finally come to start unloading a container of woodwork tools that have been in there for 12 years plus

    The shed would be 15+-M x 7.5M x 4.6 tall. It is uninsulated. I have access to 7.5x 7.5 area.
    need suggestions on how to keep dust etc from other area....
    1... erect timber frame and staple black plastic up to roof pitch height.
    2 " " use 5mm packing MDF boards
    3.... ???????

    Our printer crapped itself last night so cannot copy a plan but along the main length there are 2 roller doors, =7.5, the side wall has a access door at rear so my thinking here is timber rack along side wall between roller and access door but after that what goes where ????

    suggestions please
    Carbortec table saw TS series purchased brand new, then everything fell apart and its still in original boxes.
    free standing band saw
    free standing drill press
    Dewalt compound mitre saw
    Triton router and stand
    small lathe
    Jointer
    Thicknesser

    ?? ??
    forgotten what else, it got so depressing looking into container with all this stuffed in and nowhere to use it.
    I would love to grow my own food, but I can not find bacon seeds

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    Hi Tonto, amost important item left off the list is a dust extractor, set it up properly and there shouldn't be much dust around. Providing that you remember to switch it on, not like the person posting this reply.
    I have a book on setting up/layout the home workshop, that I can post to you if you'd like a good read.
    Kryn
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    Quote Originally Posted by KBs PensNmore View Post
    Hi Tonto, amost important item left off the list is a dust extractor, set it up properly and there shouldn't be much dust around. Providing that you remember to switch it on, not like the person posting this reply.
    I have a book on setting up the home workshop, that I can post to you if you'd like a good read.
    Kryn
    Kyrn, most appreciated will pm address.
    the list is what I have, a dust extractor is on the list...any suggestions where to buy from in Adelaide.
    I would love to grow my own food, but I can not find bacon seeds

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    I'd look at Leda Macinery, based at Plympton. They carry the spare parts IF required, plus buying a selection of machinery, you might get a discount!! I've bought gear from them, plus picked up spare parts for another brand, business based at Magill, that parts would have had to be ordered in for!!! Leda's phone number is 71277730 and website is https://www.ledamachinery.com.au/
    Hope this helps,
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    One suggestion would be to fail to contain the dust miserably. Then the logical thing is that you take over the whole 15m space. [emoji48]

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    further to this KBs PensNmore has lent me a great book/magazine from Wood Magazine called How To build a Great Workshop... as much as I like it sooner or later it will need to go back.

    So what tutorials/books/magazines are there more aussie related.... (more practical rather than ohhh look what Ive built US style) that I may lay my hands on..

    we have now gone back to drawing board so many options that could happen over next few months.
    I would love to grow my own food, but I can not find bacon seeds

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    A router table other than Triton, there are other GOOD ones out there. Check out the range of Carbatec has, even hold off buying one for a short while.

    A router to go into said table.

    There are many tools, or extras that people never ask about...:
    These are valuable in my workshop, while they are imperial, the joint does not know this
    https://www.carbatec.com.au/routing-...ble-setup-bars

    Valuable for use when using the tablesaw
    https://www.carbatec.com.au/health-s...block-incl-dvd

    A good place to start with router bits, with a selection of GOOD router bits rather tham bits that are fancy like other sets
    https://www.carbatec.com.au/routing-...er-bit-set-1-2

    Good for transferring measurements, though for some reason they have the wrong photo
    https://www.carbatec.com.au/marking-...e-300mm-metric

    These are good too
    https://www.carbatec.com.au/kreg-multi-mark

    These are good to use
    https://www.timbecon.com.au/joinery/...t-hole-machine

    Drill presses are good, but need clamps or tables
    https://www.timbecon.com.au/clamps-v...nch-hold-downs

    This is next on my shopping list
    https://www.timbecon.com.au/joinery/i-box-jointing-jig

    Don't forget a sharpening device, a slow whetstone grinder like Tormek is best in my opinion



    It is easy to make a list of the big things, but the little ones add up very quickly too, it depends on what you want to end up doing.

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    George Ive got something in each catagory its plans on how to lay it out ONCE that Iam after. thanks anyway mate.
    I would love to grow my own food, but I can not find bacon seeds

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    Hi, Carbatec have several books on setting up a workshop, found this article on Google from Carbatec.
    https://www.carbatec.com.au/article/235/setting-up-shop
    I doubt that anyone who has set up a workshop have got it right the first time, there's always something that needs changing or fine tuning.
    The important thing I've found, is to get a "work flow", that's where you have a timber storage area next to the saw, then it's onto the jointer/sander, drill press or router bench and so forth down the line. Last thing you need is to carry the timber that's down the back past the saw, then carry it back down the back to the jointer/sander, and so forth. Have your fasteners, clamps etc. close to the work bench, so that you're not walking several kms, a day looking for items.
    Hope this helps, and no hurry for the book.
    Kryn
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    Good luck with all your planning and setting up. I agree with work flow, you just need to work out how this flow will suit you .

    As for dust - set up a dust extractor external if possible and assuming the current shed is not lined, the easiest I would say is construct a timber wall and pack
    insulation
    between your timber wall and the external walls and roof, to stop dust escaping. I would then line the wall with plasterboard and use this wall to hang stuff on. Or sheet the wall in whatever, I don't figure 5mm MDF will cut the mustard.

    I know how you feel looking at your tools in a container, I can see my drill press and the shaft has rusted due to the humidity I can see a lot of work to restore it, if it can be.

    Don't forget the photo's . Have fun.

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    If you want to set up dust extraction but are unsure where you are going to set up various machines I recommend to mens sheds that they install a 6" ducting system around the walls with a Y connection every 3-4 m - that way no section of wall is further than 2m away from a potential dust collection point. The same Y's can be used as take off points for arms out into the middle section of the shed. The $ you spend on the junctions you don't use is far outweighed by the convenience of not having to take the ducting system apart to insert new junctions.

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    I hear what you saying Bob.

    Had an interesting conversation with a sales rep of a company mentioned in this thread about 4" v 6" openings... completely contredicted what I read on here .
    I would love to grow my own food, but I can not find bacon seeds

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    Sales reps are only after one thing, SALES. They don't want to sell what they haven't got or understand. I'd believe Bob, before any so called experts!!
    Kryn
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    yup my thoughts exactly Kyrn
    I would love to grow my own food, but I can not find bacon seeds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonto View Post
    I hear what you saying Bob.
    Had an interesting conversation with a sales rep of a company mentioned in this thread about 4" v 6" openings... completely contredicted what I read on here .
    I struggle to remember the last time I got any useful technical information from a sales person, usually I end up telling them what is going on. On a more specific note I wonder how many sales reps have actually measured an air flow rates though a pipe. Even most air flow engineers would follow the Australian standard method which over estimates the flow between 20 and 40% in dust extraction systems.

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