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10th November 2018, 07:06 PM #1New Member
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Fix-a-Roo's New Workshop
Hi all, long time viewer 1st time poster here - thought I would share our new adventure with you and perhaps get some advice from those who have traveled down this road before. After 5 years operating out of a double garage, the wife and I are doing the rural move which means that I finally get a decent workshop to operate out of. The shed was completed in May 2018 and is 12m x 8m with 3 x 8 carport on the front of it (thinking is to incorporate the carport into the main shed)...DSC_0068.jpgDSC_0073.jpgDSC_0074.jpg
Unfortunately there is no power to the building yet (or fortunately depending on view point) but electrician is booked for next week to get that sorted (have a nice 80m trench to dig for him which should be fun)...
Machinery:
- Holz Profi FP300-2500 Panel Saw (picked this up 2nd hand from a retired cabinetmaker and is still in as new condition)
- Laguna Patinum Dovetail Table Saw with 30" rails
- 12" Woodman combination thicknesser / planer with helical head
- Aaron AU2800B Automatic edgebander
- Laguna P-Flux3 Cyclone
- Festool Kapex 120 Mitre Saw
Dust Extraction:
Thinking about running 100mm PVC pipe to all the machines with automatic blast gates at each junction to machines along the main line - would appreciate some advice here (have watched countless youtube videos and am a little confused on the best approach)
Next steps:
Just finished etching the concrete slab, will be painting the slab using Nutech PaveCoat in Earl Grey
Will post some more pics as the work progresses...
Noel
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10th November 2018, 07:24 PM #2.
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Welcome NRue. Love your shed.
The current state of DC these days for a shed of your size is to
Locate Dust collector outside a shed - as well as getting rid of the noise, most DCs leak at some stage and you never know when it happens and just fills you shed with fine dust
Use a minimum of 150 mm (not 100mm) ducting to all your machines - 100 mm ducting just does not carry enough air.
Open up all dust ports on machines to make full use of the 150 mm ducting.
In terms of dust collection, forget youtube, there are way too many headless bunnies running round there that haven't got a clue what they are doing. You simply cannot use your eyes to make decisions about wood dust control.
Someone that does know what he is talking about is Bill Pentz - look here: Dust Collection Research - Home
Plus we have our very own Dust forum where you will get heaps of ideas that work and some have been tested with dust particle meters.
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f200
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10th November 2018, 07:27 PM #3New Member
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thanks so much, this was just the advice I was hoping to get. One of the reasons I chose the Laguna P-Flux was that it uses a Hepa Filter (not a bag) which I am hoping will mean a cleaner work environment - also thinking of putting in air filtration as well
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10th November 2018, 07:40 PM #4.
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I would still locate the DC outside, then you can remove your HEPA filter completely as what gets past the cyclone will be a tiny fraction of the total dust and will be invisible. Then you will never have to clean a filter and you will get improved air flow and dust collection.
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11th November 2018, 03:48 AM #5GOLD MEMBER
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To add to what Bob said if you do use 6" ducting and open the machine ports to accommodate the extra airflow there would be no need for air filtration boxes hung from the ceiling because virtually nothing would escape to be filtered. A couple vent fans at the top of the shed exhausting outside would be better than the filtration box. If you did put the DC outside and pulled the HEPA filter from it, the filter could be used in a self built filtration box of your own making if you really felt you had to have one.
Nice shed. My shop is 60% as big and I'll admit to a little space envy.
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11th November 2018, 08:36 AM #6New Member
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Thanks Pete. Just to clarify what you and Bob said, when you talk about opening the machine ports, are you guys saying I shouldn't put blast gates in but run the whole system open all the time? For vent fans are you referring to whirlybirds or powered vents?
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11th November 2018, 08:52 AM #7GOLD MEMBER
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no, opening the machine ports means turning the 100mm typical opening into something that will accept the 150mm connector instead.
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11th November 2018, 10:07 AM #8.
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Just to be clear here, (although its a better than nothing option as a first step) it's not just adapting the typical 100 mm size machine ports to 150 mm ducting using some kind of ducting adapter but actually opening up the ports on the machines themselves.
This may even mean getting out an angle grinder and cutting holes in machinery, "Well I'm not going to do that!" is a common response and I can understand that especially on new machines which are still under warranty. However there are often ways and means to get around this on some machines. It is sometimes possible to remove an entire machine cabinet panel and replace it with another (even on made out of MDF) with a 150 mm port cut into it.
Dust capture from Mitre saws is improved by extraction direct from the saw AND surrounding the back of the saw from behind with a half cabinet and attaching the cabinet to a 150 mm duct.
Bandsaw just have to have the air flow robbing gratings removed from their ports and have 2 or 3x 100mm ducts sucking at the same time on teh machine
NRue, Look around on the dust forum and you will get heaps of ideas.
Here's one to while away an hour or two on.
Improving machine cabinet dust ports
You will still need blast gates.
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Welcome to the forum Noel.
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11th November 2018, 06:33 PM #10New Member
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awesome thanks Bob appreciate you taking the time to guide me down the right road
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11th November 2018, 06:34 PM #11New Member
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thank you
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Welcome. If it was me I would insulate and line the shed and have all wiring on top of the lining sheet material, in conduit so that it would be easy to alter the wiring anytime in the future.
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23rd August 2021, 05:56 PM #13New Member
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Hi all...its been a while since I have posted an update, work and life has gotten in the way but I thought it was high time I shared some updated pics of the workshop. I have just completed a small extension as space was getting a bit tight after the addition of some new machines. I still haven't finished fitting out the space, work has been incredibly busy and conflicting projects have limited my time but I am slowly getting there. Happy to answer any questions anyone may have that is currently embarking on a new shed build / upgrade based on my experiences over the last 3 years...
Hope everyone is staying safe!
Cheers
Noel
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23rd August 2021, 07:31 PM #14SENIOR MEMBER
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Looks fantastic. Envious.
I'm in a double car garage with limited ceiling height. Dream of a shed I don't have to move stuff around constantly / trip over bits of project
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23rd August 2021, 07:40 PM #15New Member
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thanks its been a long journey will be glad when its finally done... I know what that's like - working out of a double garage is hard work, I hated having to pack up to make room for the cars at the end of the work day
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