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22nd March 2018, 09:44 AM #1Senior Member
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New shed build.
Hello Everyone,
We have just finished the construction of our shed in Clarence Town, just north of Newcastle. The shed is a 14m x 8m shed with a 14m x 6m awning on the front of it. It is situated on a 2.5 acre block. The height is sufficient to drive in our landcruiser. We went with the awning as an additional shelter area for working and if it rains we can drive straight in and not get wet.
The plans for the shed include lining it with insulation in the walls, and turning one half of it into a workshop. This has been built as a prelude to building the main house. As I am not connected to the grid it is my plan to go off grid with the shed, with possibly some grid backup in the future. While this system is built I will be relying on a 7.5kva generator that I managed to pick up for a song on Greys.
I still have a lot of work to do as I have to put in a 15000L water tank and excavate a slab for my 20' container to be positioned. Luckily I have a little Kubota tractor/loader/backhoe to take some of the effort out of the work.
Enjoy the pics, I will endeavor to keep the thread alive. As with all things finances control the speed of the build.
Regards
GrahamMVIMG_20180316_151606.jpgMVIMG_20180316_151511.jpgMVIMG_20180315_085024.jpgMVIMG_20180315_084949.jpg
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22nd March 2018, 10:36 AM #2
Plenty of space for the Cruiser under the awning . . .
Use the full shed for the workshopPat
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22nd March 2018, 03:58 PM #3GOLD MEMBER
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To add to what Pat said, get a caravan and live in that. The reason, wood dust goes everywhere, I had a friend who lived in a shed while building his house, nearly ended up divorced!!! No matter how well it's sealed it'll get in there, unless it's positively pressurised.
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23rd March 2018, 08:13 AM #4Senior Member
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Hi Kryn
Not planning to do much woodworking in the shed until the house is well underway, most of the woodworking will involve building the workshop and setting it up for the future. I'm a fussy bugger with workshop setups, I'm looking forward to the build. Open to suggestions from anyone on how to line the shed effectively though.
Graham
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24th March 2018, 07:16 PM #5GOLD MEMBER
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My shed build is underway and I'll be lining it with 17mm white melamine finish, so I'll have plenty of space to support cabinets and tools while hopefully cutting down on the noise that SWMBO hates, especially when the router or sander's going. Also planning on putting rockwool or similar in the walls for the same reason.
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24th March 2018, 07:38 PM #6
Rockwool is very $$$$$$$$$, use acoustic insulation, much cheaper
https://www.bradfordinsulation.com.a...ls/soundscreenThe person who never made a mistake never made anything
Cheers
Ray
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25th March 2018, 09:38 PM #7Senior Member
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Hi there,
I think I am in for a lot of lining material to line the walls in this shed. I need to finish off the downspouts and drainage on the shed and get the water tank in place which comes in about 3 weeks.Afterwards it's time to move my 20' container which I will either get relocated or do it with some full round logs and the tractor.
Easter weekend will be spent doing some of this work. It's good to be getting on with it.
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27th March 2018, 08:46 PM #8.
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Looking good Graham. Out of curiosity if you're going off grid, obviously with solar, what's your research into power requirements for your machines. My limited understanding is solar will power them easy once going, but they struggle big time to start, hence the need for a large inverter or some form of parallel generator to kick them into action
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28th March 2018, 02:49 PM #9Senior Member
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Hi Lignum
I can cover off my loads by installing inverters in parallel and/or using a pass through function on the inverter. This way once the house is built and connected to the grid I can supply power to the shed from the house which can be used to deal with the larger loads. When those loads are not present the shed can then revert to an offgrid state.
Current plans are to do a 24V installation with around 400AH of battery capacity to meet the initial needs of the project. I have a 6.5kva generator to supply power while I am setting it all up.
Regards
Graham
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28th March 2018, 02:54 PM #10Senior Member
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Hello All,
I know this question has been asked 5000 times before and I have undertaken a search of the forum first. I am interested in suggestions on how best to line this particular construction. I could frame out between the portals in 75x30 and then attach the sheets across the front of the portals. This seems most logical at this point in time.
My cabling would be run at the second row of girts just under the window height so that the power points could come out at the right height once benchwork is added. The wall cavity will be insulated.
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28th March 2018, 03:55 PM #11SENIOR MEMBER
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Your shed looks great. I will be following this closely because i also need to find out about additional insulation.
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28th March 2018, 04:32 PM #12
I went with 15mm plywood sheets (2700x1200) attached directly to the battens. I have used Reflecta-Guard by Green Insulation and was considering wool/batts as well, but the Reflecta-Guard + 15mm ply seems to be handling the heat nicely.
My biggest problem areas are the roller doors & window...
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28th March 2018, 04:33 PM #13.
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The most useful lining is ply, the cheapest is gyprock. If you are going to cover the sides of your shed with cupboards then you might as well go for teh cheapest but if you want to hand things off the walls then the ply is easier. If you do any hot metal work consider lining that part of your shed in metal. Because my shed is small I used miniorb for the metal work end of my shed , but even corro or roofing material will do. It's no where near as noisy as you think as the ridges scatter the sound rather than reflecting it back at you.
Unless you install dozens of GPOs around the walls you won't really know where you will need them until you have worked for some time your shed.
I assume you will line the walls at least to the third third girt? If so. I would run the wiring around on top of the third girt and use drop downs conduits to GPOs to wherever you need them.
That way your cabling is all outside the lining and can be easily added to or modified. If it's inside wiring and you want to add a GPO you will have to remove the lining. My shed is so low my wiring runs mainly around at the junction of the wall and the roof.
Also I would add a wiring run underneath the roof in the middle of the shed so you can add drop down GPOs. An alternative is to install a couple of SS flying foxes that you can suspend cables and Sockets from. We have 3 such flying foxes with cables coming in from each end in the Men's Shed I attend plus 3 suspended 3P sockets and they really do keep the floor clear of cables.
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28th March 2018, 05:15 PM #14Senior Member
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Hi there,
Great suggestion BobL on the power routing as it does give flexibility. My other option is to run a cable trunk around at a certain height and affix my power points to the front of it. Agree regarding the pendant power points as they would be great for keeping leads out of the way when using tools.
As far as what goes where, I have created a CAD drawing to check my positions. The right hand window will be part of a bathroom, the left hand side and along the wall to the left will be benchwork. The right hand side wall will be cupboards. I don't like shelves as they are dust magnets. I'm a bit of a 5S freak so this will be laid out well.
i do want to insulate to the very top, so need to see if I need to line as well.
graham
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28th March 2018, 05:52 PM #15.
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Sure but not too low as that means you cannot push cupboards right up against the walls. if you run a cable trunk around the walls do it above the tallest cupboard height.
Agree regarding the pendant power points as they would be great for keeping leads out of the way when using tools.
As far as what goes where, I have created a CAD drawing to check my positions. The right hand window will be part of a bathroom, the left hand side and along the wall to the left will be benchwork. The right hand side wall will be cupboards. I don't like shelves as they are dust magnets. I'm a bit of a 5S freak so this will be laid out well.
i do want to insulate to the very top, so need to see if I need to line as well.
This is the mens shed lined in painted ply up to the first RSJ.
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