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31st March 2017, 09:31 PM #91
Edit: No, I missed the point slightly.
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31st March 2017, 09:40 PM #92
While their is a decent windows in the back wall of the workshop they are the textured glass like those used in showers that you cannot see through and in terms of light are almost as good at letting light through as a house brick (pointless).
Its so opaque its hard to tell if its night or day outside.
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31st March 2017, 09:42 PM #93
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31st March 2017, 09:54 PM #94
Bob can you link me to some examples of this dust extractor enclosure is it simple a sealed cabinet with an inlet for dust to go in.
Then a hole cut in the bottom of the door so that exit hose travels out.
MAYBE its a silly idea - however would it not be BETTER if we could replace the Extractor Needle Felt Filter Bag and instead having a pot still head with the hose running out through the venting hose like a alcohol distillation. And yes distillation is my hobby.
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31st March 2017, 10:13 PM #95.
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One of the best examples was posted by a member called Zelk.
Unfortunately ALL his photos are lost in the great photo disaster a while back.
However - I did download one of his photos (see below.
The blue arrow I added to it is a suggested pathway for his air exit.
I also suggested he remove the door vent lovres.
As he was using 4" ducting I suggested he use 6" flexy for his venting tube,
dustyexit.jpg
If you use 6" ducting for the machines inside the shed you should use something bigger for the vent tube.
Something like a 12" or similar soft walled AC ducting will do.
MAYBE its a silly idea - however would it not be BETTER if we could replace the Extractor Needle Felt Filter Bag and instead having a pot still head with the hose running out through the venting hose like a alcohol distillation. And yes distillation is my hobby.
Cyclones are great
BUT
Cyclones impose a significant back pressure on a DC system so you need a lot more pressure to start with.
Cyclones also need to be carefully matched to the impeller etc.
This is what a ClearVue does bt dont forget its using a 15/16" impeller and a 4HP motor.
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31st March 2017, 10:34 PM #96
What force causes motivates the fine dust to move from inside the cabinet to venting hose?
Is it simple air /dust coming in displacing the air already in the cabinet thereby causing the fine dust to move down and out through the venting hose?
Would this https://www.bunnings.com.au/deflecto...cting_p0810219 be suitable its 3.6 meters long and would almost reach the front edge of property.
I am thinking that I will end up going with the Timbercon 2HP Dusty its $100 cheaper and slightly more powerful I just need to get an adapter from the 120mm hose to 6" intake. Any suggestions were I can find such a beast?
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31st March 2017, 11:27 PM #97.
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Is it simple air /dust coming in displacing the air already in the cabinet thereby causing the fine dust to move down and out through the venting hose?[/QUOTE]
Yep Wherever the air goes the fine dust will go.
Would this https://www.bunnings.com.au/deflecto...cting_p0810219 be suitable its 3.6 meters long and would almost reach the front edge of property.
I am thinking that I will end up going with the Timbercon 2HP Dusty its $100 cheaper and slightly more powerful I just need to get an adapter from the 120mm hose to 6" intake. Any suggestions were I can find such a beast?
Anyway, I would recommend using 6" hose and reduce to 120mm at the machine.
It's not ideal but its slightly better than using the smaller diameter hose.
Carbatech sell reducers but you wont find any that reduce to 120 mm anywhere in there. You'll have to use a 6" to 5" reducer and pack out the gap with something.
If it was me I would weld up an adapter using PVC sheet or pop rivet one together from sheet metal, SS from clothes dryer drums is a good material to use.
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31st March 2017, 11:32 PM #98
Felder / Hammer hose is 120mm.
I found a ducting company near me and they sell ducting as big as 500mm.
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31st March 2017, 11:42 PM #99.
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31st March 2017, 11:49 PM #100
$43.60 a meter.
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1st April 2017, 11:02 AM #102
Thumbsucker, without knowing your outside layout, you might like to consider running your outlet duct vertically just outside where the dusty is located so that its end is above your roof line.
Running it down your driveway may work for most wind directions, but on the days it is blowing back up the driveway you are going to get a shed full, especially if your garage door is part way up as you propose.
The vertical duct could be fixed and just a small flexible run would be required to go out the door and around to connect to the bottom of the vertical duct. Some sort of cowel may be needed on the top, but if the dusty is disconnected when not in use that may not be necessary. When in use the air flow should drive out any minor rain.
Keep any eye out for dumpsters outside of building/renovation sites where you might find aircon/extractor ducting off-cuts. Ducting with inbuilt insulation has the advantage of providing acoustic muffling which may be an advantage if you have close neighbours. The insulated ducting would need some form of cowling or at least have the insulation layer sealed off on the upper end.Stay sharp and stay safe!
Neil
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1st April 2017, 11:25 AM #103
Neil it could be possible, the outside wall has a corner and the garbage bins sits there.
I could run PVC pipe up to the wall behind the garbage bins and it would look just a piece of pluming. Then have flexible hose running from the dust extractor cabinet to the bottom of the PVC pipe. This would be neater and semi permanent solution.
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3rd April 2017, 02:39 PM #104
I have managed to strike a deal with the electrics, a friend has a friend who is an electrician who is willing to install the circuit for the cost of materials in exchange for a favour from me. So its going to end up costing me maybe $400 instead of a $1000 plus.
Now I am searching for 20 amp plugs.
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3rd April 2017, 03:31 PM #105
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