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    Edit: No, I missed the point slightly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by derekcohen View Post
    Why do you want to move your bench away from the natural light offered by a window!??! I would kill for that opportunity in my workshop/garage.

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    While their is a decent windows in the back wall of the workshop they are the textured glass like those used in showers that you cannot see through and in terms of light are almost as good at letting light through as a house brick (pointless).

    Its so opaque its hard to tell if its night or day outside.

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    A good couple of metres down the drive should not be a problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    As long as you were to have the end of the hose a good couple of metres down the drive and block off the remaining gap under the door.
    It does not need to be completely air tight the shed is through the gap above the roller door - that's why I'm suggesting venting a couple of meters down the driveway.

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    Bob can you link me to some examples of this dust extractor enclosure is it simple a sealed cabinet with an inlet for dust to go in.

    Then a hole cut in the bottom of the door so that exit hose travels out.







    MAYBE its a silly idea - however would it not be BETTER if we could replace the Extractor Needle Felt Filter Bag and instead having a pot still head with the hose running out through the venting hose like a alcohol distillation. And yes distillation is my hobby.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thumbsucker View Post
    Bob can you link me to some examples of this dust extractor enclosure is it simple a sealed cabinet with an inlet for dust to go in.

    Then a hole cut in the bottom of the door so that exit hose travels out.
    One of the best examples was posted by a member called Zelk.
    Unfortunately ALL his photos are lost in the great photo disaster a while back.
    However - I did download one of his photos (see below.
    The blue arrow I added to it is a suggested pathway for his air exit.
    I also suggested he remove the door vent lovres.
    As he was using 4" ducting I suggested he use 6" flexy for his venting tube,

    dustyexit.jpg

    If you use 6" ducting for the machines inside the shed you should use something bigger for the vent tube.
    Something like a 12" or similar soft walled AC ducting will do.

    MAYBE its a silly idea - however would it not be BETTER if we could replace the Extractor Needle Felt Filter Bag and instead having a pot still head with the hose running out through the venting hose like a alcohol distillation. And yes distillation is my hobby.
    It sounds like you are describing a sort of a cyclone.
    Cyclones are great
    BUT
    Cyclones impose a significant back pressure on a DC system so you need a lot more pressure to start with.
    Cyclones also need to be carefully matched to the impeller etc.
    This is what a ClearVue does bt dont forget its using a 15/16" impeller and a 4HP motor.

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    What force causes motivates the fine dust to move from inside the cabinet to venting hose?

    Is it simple air /dust coming in displacing the air already in the cabinet thereby causing the fine dust to move down and out through the venting hose?

    Would this https://www.bunnings.com.au/deflecto...cting_p0810219 be suitable its 3.6 meters long and would almost reach the front edge of property.

    I am thinking that I will end up going with the Timbercon 2HP Dusty its $100 cheaper and slightly more powerful I just need to get an adapter from the 120mm hose to 6" intake. Any suggestions were I can find such a beast?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thumbsucker View Post
    What force causes motivates the fine dust to move from inside the cabinet to venting hose?
    Is it simple air /dust coming in displacing the air already in the cabinet thereby causing the fine dust to move down and out through the venting hose?[/QUOTE]
    Yep Wherever the air goes the fine dust will go.

    Would this https://www.bunnings.com.au/deflecto...cting_p0810219 be suitable its 3.6 meters long and would almost reach the front edge of property.
    The vent hose should be larger than the ducting hose So I would use at least 6" diameter venting hose.


    I am thinking that I will end up going with the Timbercon 2HP Dusty its $100 cheaper and slightly more powerful I just need to get an adapter from the 120mm hose to 6" intake. Any suggestions were I can find such a beast?
    Where are you going to get 120mm hose from?
    Anyway, I would recommend using 6" hose and reduce to 120mm at the machine.
    It's not ideal but its slightly better than using the smaller diameter hose.

    Carbatech sell reducers but you wont find any that reduce to 120 mm anywhere in there. You'll have to use a 6" to 5" reducer and pack out the gap with something.
    If it was me I would weld up an adapter using PVC sheet or pop rivet one together from sheet metal, SS from clothes dryer drums is a good material to use.

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    Felder / Hammer hose is 120mm.

    I found a ducting company near me and they sell ducting as big as 500mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thumbsucker View Post
    Felder / Hammer hose is 120mm.
    How many arms and legs?

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    $43.60 a meter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thumbsucker View Post
    $43.60 a meter.
    Not as bad as Thought it would be.

    Anyway I still recommend using 6" from the DC to the machine.
    When your machine warranty runs out you can then open up the machine to 150 mm and have full flow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thumbsucker View Post
    I will need to run the fine dust escape tube out the double garage door down the driveway into the front garden.

    Thumbsucker, without knowing your outside layout, you might like to consider running your outlet duct vertically just outside where the dusty is located so that its end is above your roof line.

    Running it down your driveway may work for most wind directions, but on the days it is blowing back up the driveway you are going to get a shed full, especially if your garage door is part way up as you propose.

    The vertical duct could be fixed and just a small flexible run would be required to go out the door and around to connect to the bottom of the vertical duct. Some sort of cowel may be needed on the top, but if the dusty is disconnected when not in use that may not be necessary. When in use the air flow should drive out any minor rain.

    Keep any eye out for dumpsters outside of building/renovation sites where you might find aircon/extractor ducting off-cuts. Ducting with inbuilt insulation has the advantage of providing acoustic muffling which may be an advantage if you have close neighbours. The insulated ducting would need some form of cowling or at least have the insulation layer sealed off on the upper end.
    Stay sharp and stay safe!

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    Neil it could be possible, the outside wall has a corner and the garbage bins sits there.

    I could run PVC pipe up to the wall behind the garbage bins and it would look just a piece of pluming. Then have flexible hose running from the dust extractor cabinet to the bottom of the PVC pipe. This would be neater and semi permanent solution.

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    I have managed to strike a deal with the electrics, a friend has a friend who is an electrician who is willing to install the circuit for the cost of materials in exchange for a favour from me. So its going to end up costing me maybe $400 instead of a $1000 plus.

    Now I am searching for 20 amp plugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thumbsucker View Post
    Now I am searching for 20 amp plugs.
    Any electrical wholesaler (TLE etc) will have them, but beware, they are VERY expensive compared to the 10A jobbies (like $20-25 compared to $3-5).
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