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25th March 2007, 10:16 PM #1Prairie Joints
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Wanted Petrobond info.-supplier
G'day you blokes.
This is my first post on this forum. I stumbled across the WW forums by accident last week and was pleasantly surprised that it is Australian and has great content.
I'm not much of a woodworker, although I have adapted over the years particularly with Gunstock work in my Gun repair days, 1975-1999. Due to the political nature of this work I now earn a living in other fields.
I'm looking for a supplier of Petrobond, preferably in SA but anywhere in Australia. I am wanting to buy 25-50 kg..
I have contacted quite a few companies that sell various casting sands etc. but have come up empty on Petrobond. Back some years ago there was a series of articles in "Budget Buildups", a car magazine which covered the product and a supplier in Melbourne. I contacted them soon after reading that article and was advised that they nolonger imported and sold it. I believe a company called DYNAREF or similar now imports it but you have too buy it in big quantities like 500Kg plus.
My intentions are to venture into the world of small parts casting, particularly aluminium for my own auto restoration needs. From what I read, Petrobond and other similar oil and clay impregnated casting sands are ideal for beginners and provide very good surface finish.
I'm hoping that there will be members on this forum that use or have used this product or similar products and may have contacts were I can buy some. It is readily available in the USA, but freight is prohibative.
Thanks for your time.......Barry.
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25th March 2007, 10:37 PM #2
Hi Barry
Have you thought about looking at aluminium foundries and see if they would sell small amounts to you.
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26th March 2007, 08:21 AM #3Prairie Joints
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G'day Bazza,
Thanks for the reply. Yes have gone down that avenue with some of the local foundrys. All of them are VERY guarded with there techniques and are not interested in supplying the product. Many foundry's are using regular "green" casting sands, not petrobond type products. I can get all manner of "green" sand, just not petrobond in small quantities.
I'll keep looking. Maybe if there are other people on this forum looking for this product it maybe worthwhile buying a large quantity and dividing it up.
Other than that I'll just have to "bite the bullet" and import some.
Cheers...........Barry.
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26th March 2007, 08:44 AM #4
G'day Barry,
The last known supplier I had was
Arnot & Guy
Foundry Suppliers
10 Boileau Street
Keysborough Victoria
0397986477
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26th March 2007, 08:47 AM #5Prairie Joints
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G'day watson,
Thanks for the reply. OK I'll give 'em a try.
Cheers..........Barry.Quote "What one man can do another man can do" UnQuote: Anthony Hopkins in the movie "The Edge". "A problem is just a solution in disguise", author unknown.
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26th March 2007, 08:57 AM #6
Barry
Here is a couple of links in our own forum about Petrobond.
http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...ad.php?t=32232
http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...ad.php?t=23613
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26th March 2007, 09:35 AM #7Prairie Joints
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G'day Bazza,
Thanks for the links. I found the latter link last week but not the forma. I will contact Cast Metal Services in Brisbane. As it happens I will be in North Eastern NSW over Easter and the week after visiting my sister in Barraba. If CMS have got the petrobond I might be able to get it freighted their.
Excellent you blokes.......I'm glad I have joined this forum.
Cheers...........Barry.Quote "What one man can do another man can do" UnQuote: Anthony Hopkins in the movie "The Edge". "A problem is just a solution in disguise", author unknown.
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26th March 2007, 10:53 AM #8Prairie Joints
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G'day again,
I have contacted Arnott & Guy in Victoria. They won't supply outside Victoria.
They advised contacting Cast Metal Services in SA, (which I did last year) and they can now order in the petrobond in small quantities. This is supplied from QLD warehouse. I have ordered 25Kg. for starters.
Thanks for your help...........BarryQuote "What one man can do another man can do" UnQuote: Anthony Hopkins in the movie "The Edge". "A problem is just a solution in disguise", author unknown.
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26th March 2007, 03:00 PM #9
Do they need an export licence?
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26th March 2007, 03:40 PM #10I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.
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26th March 2007, 04:24 PM #11
G'day Barry,
Is the 25Kg a mix already???
Love to know the price....being a nosy bugger.Last edited by watson; 26th March 2007 at 04:25 PM. Reason: spelling
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26th March 2007, 11:07 PM #12SENIOR MEMBER
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Hey barry, ive been down this path before as well for restoration of old cars. I only used green sand for the first couple of casts, but in the end I found it easier to machine the item up rather than cast it to start with. Molten aluminium is bloody hot and splatters itself everywhere. Also to make a cast you need the original. Have you considered getting a cheap milling machine
Steve
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27th March 2007, 12:37 AM #13China
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Have you tried Resin Sands 8346 7429, if they don't have it I'm sure they will have an equivelent product
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27th March 2007, 12:54 AM #14Prairie Joints
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G'day All,
Thanks for all the replys.
Yeah.....BigShed, hehehe..... don't know about the export licence out of Victoria but I suspect it's a state by state sale arrangement with however imports the petrobond. No cuttin' each others lunch so to speak.
Watson, the cost of petrobond in Victoria is $3.40 per Kg. plus GST, thats through Arnott and Guy. In SA (Cast Metal Services) its $3.85 per Kg.. It's premixed and packed in 25Kg containers.
Simso, I already have a Mill Drill (Taiwanese "First" brand) and one day I'll be able to afford a proper vertical mill along the lines of a small bridgeport or similar......like every machinist wants. Yes I have made and still make parts on the mill but I'd like to try my hand at casting parts, like badges etc.. Also I remanufacture Throttle Bodies and I'm investigating making these also. Plus many other ideas. A case of too many projects so little time.
Gra, My wife and I are currently rebuilding a 1966 Ford F350. This will become our shop truck. Currently rebuilding a 351C for it plus adapting a Toyota Dyna 5 speed gearbox using a CRS bellhousing. You can view it's progress on the Ford Truck Enthusiast Forum on this link: http://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gall...?albumid=24564
Prior to this truck appearing on the scene last September I was building a 1927 Ford T Roadster Hot Rod project. You can view it's progess, or lack of it in the last 12 months on this link. http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/jour...82&action=view
Once the truck is completed later this year, I'll get back to the HotRod project.
We also have a 64 Chev Impala Convertible which was saved from the crusher in 1977. Currently we have 7 vehicles between the two of us. You might call us "revheads".
Thanks again...........Barry.Quote "What one man can do another man can do" UnQuote: Anthony Hopkins in the movie "The Edge". "A problem is just a solution in disguise", author unknown.
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27th March 2007, 01:10 AM #15Prairie Joints
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Hey Gra,
Some of those Graham Paiges look like good Hot Rod projects !!........ just kidding.
China, Yes I did call Resin Sands some time ago and they had not heard of Petrobond or any Oil and bentonite formula casting sand. That contact was some 12 months ago and the situation maybe different now. This was the case with Cast Metal Services in SA. Some 12 months ago they would only supply Petrobond if I bought a large quantity, like 500Kg..
Cheers.........Barry.Quote "What one man can do another man can do" UnQuote: Anthony Hopkins in the movie "The Edge". "A problem is just a solution in disguise", author unknown.
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