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    Nothing gratuitous about the pics AJ. Very helpful.

    -But a short movie of you hopping from foot to foot would be very useful. Great strategy that, and I intend to pracise it in a minute, I've just got to decide which foot to start with. As for "quickly locating the Stanley knife", that might take a bit more work.
    I guess that once the glass gets put away things will resolve themselves quickly. Just in time for some cold weather!

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    G'day Rob
    I've found the foot hopping thing comes fairly natural when pressed to make important decisions.
    Have just started the Global Corporate Challenge - aim is for the pedometer to record
    10,000 steps per day. Will need to do lots of hopping from foot to foot to make that
    total. Was disappointed to read that strapping it to the random orbital sander is
    specifically forbidden. So is strapping it to the dog.

    Coaming lip is now on. Can't get clamps to grip the glassed & sanded inside of the
    deck where it meets the coaming, so I whacked on some poxy dags to give the
    clamps something to grip. In the pic below you can also see the locating blocks for
    the foward bulkhead. That was Tuesday.

    Wednesday I attached the coaming. Did a dry fit & marked the inner edge for the glue
    on the coaming lip. Mixed a fairly runny filleting brew to attach it as neither the coaming
    upright end-grain nor the coaming lip had been pre-coated. The two went together easily
    & the glued faces met perfectly. As you can see. the coaming lip is over-sized & will be
    trimmed down to something a bit more sensible. As the blank is measured & cut on the
    flat, while the actual fitting has complex curves, this is the only way to be certain of having
    enough material on the boat... Trimming back is a nuisance, but not nearly as much as
    making new coaming lip blanks would be.

    This morning I removed the clamps, & filleted the underside. We were discussing
    filleting tools on another thread. Here are 3 of my favourites. There's another
    sharpened ice-cream stick somewhere about. The middle one is used to fillet under
    the coaming. The bottom one was 'developed' to fillet the coaming riser to the deck.
    And Other Stuff. The ice-cream stick does about 90% of the work.


    Anyway.... boat is looking more & more complete. Trimming back the coaming lip
    will stop it from dominating the visage. Going to bed now - one more night shift to
    do, and I need an excuse why I didn't get to 10,000 steps today...

    cheers
    AJ

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    The lip and coaming will really finish off the lovely lines. Will the inner edge have much of a radius on it?

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    Not really Rob.
    Not enough timber. The vertical is 5mm & the horizontal is 4mm.
    So will round it just enough to take a smooth lay of glass.
    cheers
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    An expensive week to be sure, to be sure.

    On Tuesday the printer carked it. With two kids in high school with assignments due...
    Swung past Officewoks on the way home from night-shift Wednesday. Hoped to pick
    up a printer using the same cartidges as ours, as I have a few spares. Nope.
    Cheapest using that cartidge now is the wrong side of $250. All the cheap printers
    now use hideously expensive tri-colour tanks. So got a HP C5380 instead. At a good
    price, but rather more than the Chancellor of the Exchequer had imagined... Never
    mind that it will be level-pegging with the cheaper units at the first change of inks, &
    steaming ahead thereafter.

    Then yesterday, I started trimming back the coaming lip with the trusty Black & Decker
    angle grinder. For about 10 seconds. Then it growled at me horribly & stopped dead.
    Only 25y/o too. Just don't make 'em like they used to...
    Looks like the motor is fine but the gearbox is shot. Same death as my B&D drill
    died a few years ago. That sat in pieces around my shed for years - couldn't bring
    myself to throw out a perfectly good, working universal motor. Got ruthless last year
    & will be ruthless with this one.

    Eventually.

    So this morning found me at Bunnies, standing front of 25 or so 100, 115 & 125mm
    angle grinders testing each one for "fit". I figure a little tool like this is the equivalent
    of a fine art brush - for the delicate stuff. Big stuff - hire a big grinder/sander. So it has
    to be a good fit to the hand, nicely balanced, easily & comfortably eased around
    curves, nicely located switch, etc, etc.

    And no cheap stuff. I've had my fill of cheap power tools (although can you believe
    Bunnies are flogging their Ozito's with a 3 year exchange warranty?) After about
    45 minutes (glad I went on my own) I'd narrowed it down to just 3 x 100mm units -
    a Makita, a DeWalt and, would you believe, a Ryobi ?!!

    Another 15 minutes of upsetting customers & making staff very nervous by waving
    them around in a sort of demented Tai Chi routine, imagining paring back gelcoat
    on a rounded chine, trimming a kayak coaming, cutting pavers, rounding bolt heads,
    etc, etc, I made a decision.... (drum-roll please)...

    The Ryobi !! (the most expensive at $99) in a cardboard box with no accessories or
    warm fuzzies. Just a solid, simple 1000W grinder with outstanding balance, grip &
    switch ergonomics, and a 2-year warranty.

    As wetness is forecast from tonight, I felt it essential to knock over the sanding jobs
    immediately. Niiiiiiice !!! A worthy successor to the B&D. And bonus!! - double the
    wattage.

    So, to the pics.

    If you think you've seen the marking jig before, you have. This is its designed &
    intended useage, but inverted, it worked really well as the oversize mark-out jig.
    Pics of that mode d'emploi back in early April.

    Aartistically wielding the new Ryobi, with boat lowered onto a pair of carpet-covered
    saw horses, I pared the coaming back to about 1mm from the marked lines, and
    removed the clamping dags inside the cockpit. Brought the coaming down to the
    line with the ROS. (also a Ryobi come to think of it, but only about 17y/o). Final
    shaping & removing last vestiges of the dags with cork block wrapped in 120g AlOx.

    Back up onto the table, & gouged out the lumps where a few bubbles of air were
    trapped during filleting. In the process blunting a carefully sharpened 1" chisel.
    Filled the holes, & will one day resharpen the chisel.

    At this point, Miss 14 came out & advised me that the monitor power led wouldn't
    stay on. Well, we fiddled & poked & swapped cables & concluded that it is time
    for a new monitor. So back down the hill to Officewoks & Hardly Normal to find
    they only stock over-priced wide-screen monitors. After an hour or so, managed
    to locate a "normal" 19" LG at IT Warehouse for a shade over $200. At this rate
    I might have to get a second job.

    The pics look good on the new screen though.
    cheers
    AJ

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    AJ are you and Alex related ....just kidding both of you.

    Ah........ the purchase of a new tool even if it does have a tail.

    Great thread AJ, the project looks like it will fly.

    Cheers
    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by m2c1Iw View Post
    AJ are you and Alex related ....just kidding both of you.

    Cheers
    Mike

    Nah, just trying to catch up with Alex' word-count.
    There's no way I can match him for toy-count !!
    I find his thread an interesting & entertaining read, even if he is doing it hard
    at the moment, so I figure imitation is the sincerest form of approval.
    cheers
    AJ

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    Am also envious of the fact that Alex is making progress at the moment.
    I glassed the coaming lip shortly after last post & have done very little to it since.
    The poxy set ok but went cloudy. A scrub with soapy water just made it cloudier.
    It was a cold humid afternoon & night, so I suspect it has ingested too much moisture.
    Started sanding it back smoothe, but got a bad feeling that I'll be sanding it all the way
    off & doing it again. Usually it's high summer when I get to this point, so this is my
    first experience of glassing in cold & wet. On an open back verandah... brrrrr...
    Motivation struggling.

    Spent part of today making a wall bracket for some new toys I picked up yesterday.
    Jaycar have some LED torches on special. Picked up a 176 lumen 3x D-cell maglite
    copy that can char-grill koalas right there in their trees. MUCH brighter than the
    equivalent maglite, & lasts about 8 times as long on full power. Also bought an 80
    lumen pen-light which has roughly the same light output & beam as a Mk1 Dolphin
    with brand-new batteries & bulb, but uses a single AA cell. A bunch of us from work
    put in a 10+ order which brought the price down even further.

    Also brought myself to finally throw the dead angle-grinder and a long-dead jigsaw in the bin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m2c1Iw View Post
    Great thread AJ, the project looks like it will fly.

    Cheers
    Mike

    Just re-read your post Mike.

    Merely aiming to have it float, not fly.

    And hopefully keep up with OnkaBob's Laker.

    cheers
    AJ

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    I have never applied epoxy with a roller.
    Have been less than impressed with rollers as being anything other than a
    quick way to cover large areas. Economy of product ... skeptical.
    Besides which, on my kayaks, there isn't enough area to make the extra fiddling
    with a roller & tray & etc worth-while.

    On Monday, I changed my mind. On all fronts.

    Sanded & final pox-coated the coaming, which I last week took back to bare wood
    and re-glassed, to to full thickness blushing. Then thought, with an hour or so up
    my sleeve, to coat the hull, one last time to fill the sworls & swirls that 80G
    paper on the ROS left behind. Decided to try using a roller. Because it was there.
    Unused.

    Pumping 14x resin/7x hardener is about what the 2 deck chines take for full
    coverage with a varnish brush, allowing for the large hole in the middle.
    So I figured the roller would probably cover the next chine down. Which it did.

    With almost 1/2 of my mixture still to go !!

    Lifted the boat onto narrow supports & coated all of the next chine and more
    than half of the bottom chine. There's enough left to finish the bottom, but I
    can't get at it to coat it. (pic below)

    Tipping afterwards with a varnish brush left a finish not as smoothe as MIK's
    pics, but a quantum leap better than brush alone.

    By my calculations, the 3" roller has saved me 2 hrs painting, 6 hrs sanding
    irregularities in film thickness, and made my pox go 2.5 times the distance.
    With a corresponding weight saving in the boat.

    Thanks blokes !!

    Afterthought...
    When I got home from shift early Tuesday morning, I felt moved to lift the boat
    off its precarious perch on the narrow stands. Just as well I did. A few hours
    later at 10am, I was woken by the wheelie bins being blown over & tumbled
    along the street. The boat, while wet, had not shifted.... bow to wind, whew !!
    Nearly everything else except metal hand tools, also wet, had been blown off
    the table. The table has never been rained on before. That was some wind.
    Felt dreadful, so went back to bed until re-woken by pager announcing storm
    damage, & time to go play fireman.

    Today I fitted the forward bulkhead. Nice to be moving again.

    cheers
    AJ

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    Noice!

    What type of roller did you use?
    Cheers, Bob the labrat

    Measure once and.... the phone rings!

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    Glad to see you back at it AJ. We got that big blow this afternoon too. I wondered if it came from your place!

    BTW have you tried Mik's tip of dragging the roller with a gloved finger preventing it from rotating? It certainly improved my agricultural efforts

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    Foam epoxy roller from Flat Duck.
    Has about a 3mm thick (thin) layer of fine foam on it.
    Holds surprisingly little epoxy off the job, not at all like the furry paint ones that take
    half a litre to fill the nap before they'll transfer anything to the job.

    Tried the locking-the-roller-with-one-finger trick, but it kept sliding off the frame.

    Got two more days off, then back for afternoon & night shifts. Before then I hope to
    install the aft bulkhead, drill out the footbrace screw holes, hatch screw holes, and
    maybe even fabricate securing plates for the carry straps at each end.

    That will just leave sanding, painting & final fit-out. The Chancellor of the Exchequer
    hasn't delivered a ruling on what colour she wants it yet.

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    Well, tomorrow is the horse's birthday so that means July has been and gone. I know the estimated launch date was only chiselled in custard but must ask - how's it going?

    Are there any pics of painting progress or is the C of E still deciding on the colour?

    As a little incentive I must say that it looks like Sunday's weather is going to be brilliant if the charts are right and I suspect there will be more days like this over the next month or 2 in between the rain.
    Cheers, Bob the labrat

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    Little progress. Family emergencies interstate, over-time, cold wet weather, &
    general life intrusions. Also dreaming of next boat. (Unable to decide between MIK's
    "RAID41", Ross's "First Mate" or Radoslaw Werzsko's "4M Dayboat". None of them
    is exactly "right", but with some tweaks here & there.... But I digress.)

    Bulkheads are installed. Most of inside & coaming is sanded ready for varnish.
    Still a bit of sanding to do there.

    Outside is un-sanded, holes un-drilled, straps & plates un-made.

    Colours are chosen, but from the Bright-side cattledog. Will try to get Norglass from
    Goolwa, perhaps this weekend - nice day for a drive to Clayton to look at the new
    weir.... errr.. regulator.

    cheers, & thanks for asking.
    AJ

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