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20th April 2009, 05:30 AM #16Intermediate Member
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Hi have you started your PBK kayak yet..I sent for plans of a BK 18 and I am looking for marine plywood suppliers and a material to make the stringers and keelson from my first thoughts are ash,,I built a PBK 20 in the late 50s...kind regards Mike
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23rd April 2009, 07:38 AM #17New Member
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Hi Mike, thanks for your reply.No I havent as yet started on the canoe Im a bit tied up decorating the outside of the house at present. I will try and find out if my local timber yard still stock marine ply. When I built the last canoe I gave them a cutting list from the book and they were very obliging. Biggest mistake I made was making my own paddles from the book plans, they were "heavy" next ones I will buy! Chat to you again soon. Regards Dinghy
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23rd April 2009, 08:03 PM #18Intermediate Member
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Hi Dinghy..my enquires re marine ply have turned up two standards BS 1088 seemed to have been superceded by EU standard which is not as good but it seems if you can track it down BS standard still exist it was not as complicated back in the late 50s what are using for the stringers and the keel.......kind regards Mike
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24th April 2009, 12:35 AM #19
My 2 cents worth
I think these are what we're all talking about....
If anyone is interested I have an unfinished single shell available here in Hobart. I had plans to get it in the water but too many other projects in the way. I'm sure that with all the other info in this thread it could be a viable project.
See you on the water..
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24th April 2009, 03:24 AM #20Intermediate Member
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Hi Still Smilin...I think you are a bit to far away we are in the UK is that a PBK 20 or 18 with the children ...kind regards Mike
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25th April 2009, 11:28 PM #21
Hi Mike, theSingle measures 12ft stem to stem and the double is 15ft. I like to paddle the double one-up as I like the little extra waterline length. At some stage I intend to do one of these using the Geodesic Airolite construction method developed by Platt Monfort - www.gaboats.com
Cheers - Peter
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26th April 2009, 12:23 AM #22Intermediate Member
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Hi Peter..forgive my ignorance but was is Geodesic Airolite? ...changing the subject did any Gurkha Regiments ever serve with the the Austrialian Forces , why I ask as we in the UK have a Goverment that will not let ex Gurkha servicemen make a home in the UK ...I am ashamed of the way were are treating these brave men....kind regards Mike
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26th April 2009, 01:04 AM #23
Hi Mike, the gaboats website will give you all you need to know.....but I can't throw any light on the Gurkha question - Google gave me an interesting read under "Gurkha regiments Australian forces".
Cheers, Peter
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26th April 2009, 01:32 AM #24Intermediate Member
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Hi Peter ..thanks for that I think aircraft builders built the Vickers Wellington WW2 bombers fuselage on the same principle it is very stong and light...kind regards Mike
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27th April 2009, 11:40 PM #25New Member
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British Military Canoes of World War 2
Hi All
Stumbled upon your Group and noticed interest in plans and other bits of info etc.
I could not help thinking that you might like to know about 'The Cockleshell Canoes' ( ISBN 9781848680654 ) which contains intricate details about the construction of the military canoe used during WW2.. even the aluminium ones. But as you are interested in the wooden type there are lots there which will prove useful. I am told that there is so much detail that it would be possible to replicate some of these wooden types..ie esp the longitudinal member types.
Apart from that is a good read esp if your techy inclined. It has 320 pages and now (1st Edition had 137 ) 145 photos most of which have never been published before.
Graet story about the guy who manufactured the famous Mk 2 type canoes used on the Frankton Raid on Bordeaux harbour and explains how these canoes got their 'Cockle' code-name and who /how it all came about.
I own one of only six of the Mk 2 canoes now left in the world as well as a Mk 7 .... but I should shut up now.
Hope some use.
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28th April 2009, 02:39 AM #26Intermediate Member
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Hi Quentin...I built a PBK 20 with my father when I was 13 and I canoed for nearly 25 years after that..since that early time and it was about when I was 13 I saw the feature film the Cockshell Heroes the memory of how brave these men were was intsrumential in me taken up canoeing and that bravery and admiration being a war baby has stayed with me ever since the likness of the PBK design to the wartime Cockshell Canoes spurred me on as well.
The thing I did not realise is how many operations canoes took part not just in the channel but in the Pacific as well .......thank you for the information and I will be reading your book as soon as i can my hands on it I have read a paperbook regarding raids ...kind regards Mike.....
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28th April 2009, 02:45 AM #27Intermediate Member
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Hi Quentin......I do apoligise....it seems my spelling of Cockleshell could be improved I think It is just an age thing.... Mike.......
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28th April 2009, 02:49 AM #28New Member
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The canoes they used in the film were not the ones used on the raid.. the ones in the film were produced POST raid and were Mk 1** the frankton raid ones were Mk 2 .
you will be amazed with the info in the book.. then you will realise how much is not known about the raids themselves.. 1000's of titbits as well.
Q
I cant spell eather!
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6th May 2009, 11:19 PM #29New Member
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Another fine mess or should that be edition..
Thought you might like to see these..
This from Prof. Eric Grove - Review in Navy News May 2009.
' this volume really is one of the most original, interesting and informative to have appeared recently'
'an excellent and ground breaking work', 'described in great detail'.
From 'The Croaker' April 2009 issue by M.J.A.
'Clarity of delivery'.
'Rees writes well and his narrative flows'
'a stimulating and revealing tract'
'fascinating and detailed accounts'
Globe and Laurel - March - April 2009 issue by G.A.D
'remarkable book',
' this great and important military and maritime story - which he tells very well',
'good looking and man sized book' with 'stunning photographs'..
SECOND edition soon out...
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7th May 2009, 01:45 AM #30Intermediate Member
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Cockleshell Canoes
Hi Quentin...well done your book is must read now......kind regards Mike
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