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24th January 2007, 11:14 PM #151
Ramps,
I wouldn't worry about varnished vs oiled paddles. I varnished mine and have used them all day without blister issues... and I'm a soft office worker. The only thing I do is keep the the shaft dry when I'm using them. I think that the friction between salt water, varnish and skin would cause blisters. When its all dry...no issues. I think kayakers have issues with blisters as they are always rotating there shafts (on the paddles, that is!!!).
BTW - Carry a spare paddle in a accessible position. Two people and one paddle in a canoe looks, and is, damn hard to get around with. You only make this mistake once.
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25th January 2007, 10:37 AM #152
Final day of working on the canoe
I don't think so the sliding seat rail system is a prototype a there is a couple of things I might just change, soon sooner, some later.
But yes it's complete a bit of oil on the shafts of the two big paddles and ... wow .. launch tomorrow ... amazing really
Thanks Matt
It's good to get it from first hand experience rather than "general rules" and what was said. You could be on the mark there with the "wet paddles" theory. Most paddling is now done in a kayak (or a barely shaped ski they call a kayak ) and it's impossible to keep the shaft of a double-ender dry!
I have stopped the varnish on the shaft just above the blade already on the mummy and daddy paddles so I will see how the organoil holds out but if it's too much hassle then I will varnish them.
BTW Matt, I have now recaned one seat and used mostly cane that came off the broken seat and the rest was from that "recycled" bunch that you sent thru. As far as he roll of new cane ... there's still about 90% of that left ...so if you need to redo a seat at some stage, talk to me I will send it back across. ThanksRamps
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25th January 2007, 12:39 PM #153
I leave the handles on my oars bare wood and just rely on sweat and human hand oil to preserve them. It seems to be working
Richard
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25th January 2007, 10:41 PM #154
Blisters
I was wondering ... if as is suggested above that a varnished surface causes blisters then other resin surfaces would too.
Like epoxy that is used for carbon. Or polyester resin. Or even moulded plastic.
And personally I have only ever got two cases of blisters and both where with paddles that were finished with oil.
So I looked further on the net.
While some people are ADAMANT that varnish causes blisters others with experience are pretty ADAMANT that it does not.
Have a look at the variety of opinions here - some on both sides seem quite knowledgeable.
http://www.bearmountainboats.com/php...opic.php?t=611
Perhaps use of a paddle over a long period causes blisters if your hands aren't hard.
(a very confused)
MIK
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30th January 2007, 01:56 PM #155
The launch
Yes I did get to launch on Australia day
It was blistering hot still at 4pm with a oppressive easterly wind (about 20 knots) ... interesting first launch.
Handles beautifully, keeps straight as an arrow even in these winds.
Found it difficult to turn into the wind with me at the stern and the youngun's in front but was better with a balanced weight ... me in the middle or mum and dad at either end and the girls in the middle.
draw was about 4 metric inches with all on board ... could also handle a lot of camping gear ... promising.
anyway some pics before I sign off on this thread and another stage of learning and a undergrad in canoe building passed with "C"Ramps
When one has finished building one's house, one suddenly realizes that in the process one has learned something that one really needed to know in the worst way--before one began.
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30th January 2007, 01:59 PM #156
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30th January 2007, 02:21 PM #157
a few more pics
just for good measure
I meant to get a few of us all loaded but the video was in hand at the launch ... not the still cameraRamps
When one has finished building one's house, one suddenly realizes that in the process one has learned something that one really needed to know in the worst way--before one began.
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30th January 2007, 04:07 PM #158
She turned out as sweet as a nut mate! And I raise yer C to an A+ yer dopey young nob!
Sorry I didnt make it mate I did post below this explainin the whys of that... bloody shame cause mate shes a beauty!! Betcha the missus an little bits are chuffed at their hubby an daddy
Good one mate!!Believe me there IS life beyond marriage!!! Relax breathe and smile learn to laugh again from the heart so it reaches the eyes!!
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30th January 2007, 05:03 PM #159
Yeah cool Dingo
Stinker of an afternoon
was a bit slow on the post as I was called a few hours after launch (before the fireworks for a 0430 start on Saturday to head to the Pinjarra fires. 30Hr shift then another the following night ... sort of coming to nowRamps
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30th January 2007, 05:29 PM #160
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30th January 2007, 06:11 PM #161
She's a bloody ripper
makes Dingo, Midge and me look really slackCheers
Jeremy
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30th January 2007, 09:36 PM #162
Great looking canoe Ramps, good day for a launching too !!! :aussie3:
Cheers
Dave
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31st January 2007, 10:55 PM #163
Next time ...
Next time I'd ...
Spend more time shaping the strip ends to get a tighter fit of outer the stems
Spend more time shaping the keel strips to get a tighter finish against the stems
Avoid staples near the stems, for some reason they made bigger holes here that had to be filled … a bit ugly.
Make my stems pieces a bit longer and a fair bit wider probably up them to about 30mm for ease of fitting.
Trim the excess stems off before attaching the inwales.
I'd still be happy using Paulownia (however I'd also be interested in meranti).
I'd definitely use sheoak for the trim again.
I'd do the same seats ...they're worth it
Over all ...
I think I'd do rolling bevel again (this gave me more flexibility in the in fitting the strip pattern in the bottom of the hull).
I'd like to try to do the stapleless system (but don't regret using staples on my first attempt).
I thoroughly enjoyed making the canoe and I'd love to make another right away and would, if it wasn't for other priorities.
Later in the week I'll give a break down of prices
ciao 4 nowRamps
When one has finished building one's house, one suddenly realizes that in the process one has learned something that one really needed to know in the worst way--before one began.
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1st February 2007, 01:00 AM #164
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1st February 2007, 08:55 AM #165
She looks a treat matw, well done.
alot of poeple start projects like yours and they never see the water, good job.
Scotty
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