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11th March 2014, 05:21 PM #1Intermediate Member
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Trimaran Kayak
Hi folks,
I'm interested in a canoe/Kayak trimaran set up like this one,
http://www.clcboats.com/shop/boats/w...iling-rig.html
However I would like the main hull to be more trimaran oriented than canoe or kayak, I would still like to be able to paddle it solo but I would like it to perform at it's best in the trimaran configuration.
My early thought are to use a motor canoe type hull with it's broader transom.
All thoughts, ideas and links appreciated.
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11th March 2014, 07:03 PM #2
Must be heaps of options out there.
Start with this one, sounds exactly like what you described.
http://www.storerboatplans.com/wp/bo...-powered-boat/
And Mik also has outrigger plans.
http://www.storerboatplans.com/Canoe...utriggers.html
Jem might have something suitable as well.
-Maybe a Cape Fear http://www.jemwatercraft.com/proddetail.php?prod=CF1531
- or a Sabalo SOT http://www.jemwatercraft.com/Sabalo.php
I know someone with one of these who has outriggers and sail for it: http://www.jemwatercraft.com/forum/v...3426&start=190
Will be interesting to see what you end up with.Cheers, Bob the labrat
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13th March 2014, 02:56 PM #3Intermediate Member
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Yes I have seen those, can't see why you would think they would stand out as trimaran hull though.
This is what I am looking for roughly, Meade Gougeons Everglades sailing canoe, unfortunately, no plans, professionally built (about 7k !) for main hull alone. Note full bow and broad transom.
DSCF4035-750.jpg
http://planingaround.blogspot.no/201...ing-in-st.html
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16th March 2014, 10:50 PM #4
compromises & priorities...
A good canoe probably isn't a good tri but would be functional...
A good tri hull is most unlikely to be a functional canoe...
They have different operating speeds, and different force vectors to manage.
Have a look at
http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/gumprecht/
http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/jim/trilars/index.htm
big difference between hull shapes.
cheers
Alan JAlan J
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17th March 2014, 06:34 PM #5Intermediate Member
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I'm liking this hull at the moment. http://www.clcboats.com/shop/boats/s...kayak-kit.html
With these floats stretched a bit. http://www.teamscarab.com.au/Aussie%203%20m/design.html
But it's only Monday !
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17th March 2014, 06:44 PM #6Intermediate Member
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More pics of the Bootlegger.
http://www.guillemot-kayaks.com/guil...node/2402/pics
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17th March 2014, 07:45 PM #7
Funny thing is I thought of the Microbootlegger the other day because the profile is very similar to the photo in your first post but it doesn't have a transom so I didn't put it forward.
Being a strip build you would probably want stripped outriggers too and most plans for these are stitch/glue as far as I can tell.
You could always design your own outriggers in Kayak Foundry.Cheers, Bob the labrat
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20th March 2014, 04:58 PM #8Intermediate Member
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Look what I found !
Told you it was only Monday !
Check this out ! http://dixdesign.com/Trika_540.htm
Likes; Designed to be a trimaran but can paddle; Long waterlines; Freestanding mast; Has a jib, more string to play with.
Dislikes; Looks a bit fragile for my coast, (but great for the Swan river). Flat bottom, flat panels aren't as stiff as curved and they slam in a chop, which I have plenty off !
However, best thing I've seen yet, What do you think ?
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23rd March 2014, 12:58 PM #9Intermediate Member
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Big Brother
Aaand,
it has a bigger tougher big brother,
http://smalltrimarans.com/blog/?p=10791
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23rd March 2014, 08:28 PM #10
Looks like it would be a good trimaran but probably not a good paddle craft. At that length and beam with a transom design I suspect that the drag would be so high you would rather paddle a bathtub. On the plus side, stability would probably be excellent.
Cheers, Bob the labrat
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23rd March 2014, 08:45 PM #11
I dunno Rob
At 5.6M long, I guessing the transom is probably up around waterline level.
So unless you paddle fast enough to make her squat, there's probably minimal drag.
As a sailing vessel, I like the look & behaviour in the videos.
Almost enough to send off for plans...
Lake Alex & the Gulfs might be a bit of a stretch in any sort of blow though.
A wet ride, albeit exciting.
cheers
Alan JAlan J
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24th March 2014, 07:44 PM #12
AJ, yep, agree with that but (there's always a but) I'm thinking with that width carried through to the stern and that overall length there must be a large wetted surface area and hence high frictional drag.
I guess if you only want to paddle slowly it doesn't really matter much. My little kayak with the transom rear is slow but stable and I use it more than my other 2 put together.Cheers, Bob the labrat
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25th March 2014, 09:05 PM #13part time wood mangler and ukulele player
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This guy builds cheap and fast and multiples with improvements all the way.
http://www.diy-tris.com/
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25th March 2014, 10:46 PM #14
That's an interesting site, thanks for the link Titch.
Cheers, Bob the labrat
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11th April 2014, 11:44 PM #15
Hi,
I am going through the same thought process at present.
Not sure if you've seen the article on CLC's site about the evolution of the sailrig? It provides some thoughts on the best type of kayak/main hull to work with the sailrig/trimaran configuration:
http://www.clcboats.com/life-of-boat...iling-rig.html
At present I'm leaning towards the Chesapeake 17, as it's recommended but mainly as I already have the plans ) I've also considered the Chesapeake Double or Triple, and opening out the cockpit area to be more canoe-like.
Worth emailing CLC and asking JOhn Harris 9the designer) what he recommends for your needs - they're pretty friendly/helpful/responsive each time i've emailed them.
Regards,
Darren
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