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  1. #16
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    I just looked, and Carbatec got the terminology a bit different, its rip capacity of its smaller saw is certainly smaller than that of the big Sherwood. The 18 Sherwood can cut 470 mm wide boards, and 14" Carbatec 345 mm. The Sherwood can cut 305 mm thick boards, while Carbatec - 200 mm. Sherwood also got a fair bit more power - the saws are really in different classes, so it is not fair to compare.

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    I think ive narrowed it down to:

    https://www.timbecon.com.au/sawing/b...s/18in-bandsaw

    or

    https://www.ledamachinery.com.au/led.../tets-prod-6/#

    I assume theyre the same but I'll ask the experts - is one better than the other?

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    The Sherwood has a 5 year warranty

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwertyu View Post
    I think ive narrowed it down to:

    https://www.timbecon.com.au/sawing/b...s/18in-bandsaw

    or

    https://www.ledamachinery.com.au/led.../tets-prod-6/#

    I assume theyre the same but I'll ask the experts - is one better than the other?
    They are different.

    The Leda has larger horsepower, better blade guides and looks to have a better fence. The Timbering has cast iron wheels that will be heavier, more momentum so possibly smoother cut - however that may be offset by lower power. Ignore the bs regards the 4 pole motor. Yes, the motor has more torque, but not the blade. They both run same blade speed, so the Leda will have more usable torque at the blade as it has more hp .

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    you can't go past Mc Diven in Williamstown Melbourne have a chat to them about blades very helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RossM View Post
    They are different.

    The Leda has larger horsepower, better blade guides and looks to have a better fence. The Timbering has cast iron wheels that will be heavier, more momentum so possibly smoother cut - however that may be offset by lower power. Ignore the bs regards the 4 pole motor. Yes, the motor has more torque, but not the blade. They both run same blade speed, so the Leda will have more usable torque at the blade as it has more hp .
    Which would you get between these two?

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwertyu View Post
    Which would you get between these two?
    I would want to look at both & see if there was discernible build quality difference - but on paper the Leda looks better - the 3HP motor alone would make the Leda a better contender.

    Just to clarify my comment on the Timbecon marketing BS - they are trying to say a lower speed motor is an advantage because it has more torque. However you don't use torque at he motor drive shaft, you use it at the cutting edge. The gearing reduces speed and increases torque at the blade - Torque = Power / Speed - as both run blades at same speed, the saw with higher power results in more torque where it is used.

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    I was at Leda picking something up yesterday and they didnt have any larger bandsaws on display - most of the stuff needs to be shipped in from adelaide! the rep was telling me they sell mostly CNC/edgebanding stuff for panels/cabinet making.

    Im leaning more towards the Leda without having seen the timbecon (not that I know what Im looking at anyway). Leda is closer to home too. (though I do have a timbecon voucher... hmm.....)

    Also had a look at hafco's yesterday it 'looked' cheap. the castings probably come out of the same factory but the fence was tiny and the knobs looked flimsy

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    Searching for a bandsaw always has those what if questions floating around and they can not be answered by just reading the specs. You really have to have a look at all the saws on the short list. Last time I bought a bandsaw the No 1 on my short list got the flick when I saw the build quality. Buying tools can bring on the urge to get one home fast but it pays off to take your time and have a good look around.
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    Does anyone from here and who are in your area have either that you can check out in the flesh - even if it's a different model ? Or can the resellers refer you to someone local who has one that you could look at?

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    Best bang for the buck in my opinion is the Rikon 10-326. A great machine. Great Table and adjuster and fence.

    After researching and comparing units what I decided to buy. Australian versions had a safety switch installed which limited the overall height but modded my yellow blade protector tube where it was hitting the switch up top.

    Can now resaw at around 330mm. I compared this unit with another popular model that was selling for around $2200. The Rikon cost me $1750 if I can recall and included wheels.

    I resaw hardwood, blackwood and gum. Its a nice machine.
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    Thanks for the suggestion. I see that it is 1.5HP - seems to be lower than the models I was looking at - do you find that its enough?

    They also have a 3HP 14" with 353mm height capacity and 18" 2HP with 330mm height capacity. Also, how much value is there in being able to fit larger blades? - 25mm on the 14" and 35mm on the 18"

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    A couple of observations.
    I find I use the throat on the 18" when I cut things that curve two ways.
    I use a high quality hardened 6mm blade on my bandsaw to cut EVERYTHING. I have resawn 8" purpleheart with it. It tracks better than the 1" blades I had.

    When I was looking for a bandsaw and doing my research, one bit of advice grabbed my attention and I found it most helpful. "Get them to start their demo machine. Put a coin on edge on the bandsaw table. If it falls over, get a different bandsaw." On one particular specimen, the coin actually jumped right off the table. That thing was shaking so hard.

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    Hi qwertyu, (great name!)
    Jet (Carbatec) make good saws. I bought an 18" unit back in 2007 from Gregory's Brisbane and very happy with it and it gets a lot of use. My saw is a general purpose unit but mainly used for ripping and that includes much hardwood up to 150 thick.
    My unit does not have a blade break but I believe new versions do have a blade break however, I've never had need of that device. I wind the blade up fairly tight but below the tension indicator for corresponding blade width. I rarely release tension between uses as ti is used more or less on a daily basis.
    I'd have no hesitation in buying another Jet however I'd buy one with a 20" throat (508mm).
    Blades: I use, have used all sorts of blades from different suppliers, 10mm, 13mm my normal blade and 19mm.
    I get the minimum TPI for that size blade, they clear the sawdust easily. Fine tooth blades are for hacksaws !
    Normal blades a Carbon, there are others however the best blades for long life are Bi Metal. They cost more but well worth while.
    I find the best prices are from supplier LSW Group at Bankstown NSW ph 9708 0888, talk to Mr Kire Hristosvki.
    You'll also need a spare set of bearings, buy them by the packet, they're around $3-4 each. Check them fairly often, they run out of gease pretty often.
    If you're mechanically handy its fairly easy to remove the plastic inserts, wash in petrol, replace bottom side cover, fill with grease, replace top cover, they're good to go again.

    There's also good advice from the members below.
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