Thread: Do you own a Hammer N4400 bandsaw

Ive read various reviews. the hammer only has 2.5hp. the Carbatec can have up to 3hp if you go to the 21inch. Not sure of jet, Cast or machined iron wheels with many spindles are the go I understand after reading doco as the wheel spins truer and less sideways in the blade. the thrust bearing on the carbatecs could be better (ie in another plane).

I read a review in AWR a while back that compared the JET, the Carbatech & the Holz - holz rated for industrial, the Carbatech on safety & the Jet for home. Go to the wood show and do the homework on site. thats teh go (thats what I intend to do anyway)

note - the hammer is a good unit - no question - dont get me wrong....

cheers

G'day,

Onya Zed! Someone willing to stand up and say that GMC, Ozito and Ryobi are carp.

(but I've got a Ryobi drop saw which is tough as nails and over 20years old and never missed a beat - they must've built 'em better back when I was a little fella.)

Waldo, presuming you meant crap, don't we all say this already, many times a day? I could tell you so many stories about GMC stuff that I tried out and had to return it would bore you to tears.

But what about the Hammer fellas...

Originally Posted by FlyingDuck

Waldo, presuming you meant crap, don't we all say this already, many times a day? I could tell you so many stories about GMC stuff that I tried out and had to return it would bore you to tears.

But what about the Hammer fellas...

I want to sell my 17" 4300 BS and buy the Hammer 4400. Better unit all the way around, especially the motor, wheels, table, trunnions and guides.

I want to saw up logs with the bandsaw, and was looking at an 18" or 21" unit, but the Hammer is only 16.5".

I guess if you have a round log you are limited by the veritcal cutting capacity anyhow. ie. It is only 12", so it doesn't make any difference if horizonal cutting capacity is 16.5" or 21" anyhow, becuase you can't use it.

The diameter of the wheel determines the maximum width of blade you can use (due to fatiguing from being bent over a smaller radius).

The width of cut due to the size of the wheel is less important I would say.

Cam

Potter, I think you may have confused what I was talking about. I was not talking about the blade size, but rather the vertical & horizontal clearances between the blade and the machine.

hi duck
i saw the hammer saw at brizzy show,it has same wheels as the industrial carbetec range,

it has a weird fence,and a useless mitre slot,(my opinion only) what is it you are paying extra for? shipping from europe,and shipping from asia (as most of the parts would be made there anyway.

i would buy a Jet or a carbatec (actually have 1) before the hammer.

jet are sold to all schools in QLD, they would not go to government if they did not preform.
local agent needs to carry spares for 5 years after the last one is sold.!!!!!
i have no affiliation with any supplier,brand,

now im sure there are fans of the hammer,and im not here to attack there overpriced machines,i just feel that there is better value from taiwan

brisbane saw service has 2 green italian machines (sicar) sitting in their showroom,i have seen them there everday for 2 years,they would have been 2500 retail a while ago,i bet you could do an awesome deal on them today.

anyway just my 2 cents worth

Hi A192K, thanks for that very interesting opinion. The Hammer & Felder machines advertise themselves as being 100% made in Austria, but an interesting question does "made" mean just assembled in Austria, and parts from elsewhere. Perhaps Felder can answer this one.

Those sicar bandsaws sound interesting. I'm from Brisbane but have never heard of this shop before. By the sounds of it you walk past there everyday, so maybe you could do me a favour and pop in their and see how much they want for them now. Do you know what size of bandsaw they are.

Have you got the Jet or Carbatec? What size? Any comments about the cons & pros of your machine? What would you buy next etc...

I guess one good thing with the Europen machines is that if I want to sell it in 10 years time I think it will hold its value much more than a taiwan machine.

Anybody had any experience trying to sell a carbatec or hafco machine? I guess the Jets would also hold their value a bit more becuase of their name.

hey Flying duck,

I went through this a while ago myself and had a good look at the carbatec 21" - bit "tinny" and the guide post had too much movement for my liking. I have a Jet 14" and was going to go the Jet 18 or 20" as the quality is better than carbatec but I actually went with an Agazanni and absolutely love it. Solid construction, smooth, powerful and bloody accurate. I got mine from For Wood Tools in WA ( no afiliation etc). For a bit more dough, the Agazanni leaves the other cheaper ones for dead.

just my 2 bobs worth.

AD

Thanks for the 2 bobs blogs. Sounds like another one I shoud check out. What's your model and size?

Will have to do some research and find out where this one is sold in Brisbane. Any other European brands I should be considering?

Blogs, just had a look at your post about your bandsaw, what a bewdy. How much did it cost, and how much was the shipping? Do you have a link to their web site at all?

I am also after a jointer & tablesaw & notice you have the Jet stuff - any comment here? I can't deicde over the Carbatec CTJ-350, Jet 8CS and Powermatic 60A jointer. Instinct would tell me to go with the Powermatic, but have read a lot of reviews from USA, and the Carbatec (ie. Delta 37-350A) seems to rate higher than the Powermatic.

What are you impressions of that Jet jointer & supersaw you got there?

Have a look at the Woodfast BS500 300mm depth of cut, table 630x480, tension indicator (for those who want one)