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24th January 2019, 10:33 PM #1Senior Member
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South east Queensland woodworking 14in band saw
Hi fellow forum members.
Having only recently upgraded my table saw, I was thinking of getting a small bandsaw. I think the 10in are too small and believe the blades are prone to breaking due to the small radius wheels, so am thinking a 12 or 14 in saw.
Never having owned one before and not planning of resawing large planks or any wood (at the moment I guess), I’m not sure what to get.
I’ve recently seen a brand of saw sold through a local woodworking shop called SEQld woodworking, located halfway between Brisbane and Gold Coast.
The saw I’m looking at is a 14in 750 watt machine.
Does anyone know anything this brand, have one, know of it, anything?? Can absolutely find nothing on google about this brand or machine.
Thanks for all responses.
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25th January 2019, 07:52 AM #2GOLD MEMBER
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no personal experience with this brand or anything to do with them. I'd say go with 14", that's the most common "it'll do" size that people talk about here (18" is better for most applications). That saw however looks like many of the other saws in that area, so it'll be a rebadged version of the 14" saw that hafco/c'tec and the rest use. It doesn't look dissimilar to https://www.machineryhouse.com.au/W4224 for example...
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25th January 2019, 08:20 AM #3SENIOR MEMBER
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25th January 2019, 08:44 AM #4Senior Member
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Is 1HP suitable for most cutting except heavy hardwood logs etc
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25th January 2019, 09:03 AM #5GOLD MEMBER
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it may well be - that's obviously one easy to "adjust" area for a vendor wanting to offer a cheaper version of the OEM device, and why you would see someone down-spec it to 1hp. The BP-355 I linked to is a 2hp (same body shape as the SEQ) and the c'tec BS-345C is 1.5hp (different body/stand I think).
Is 1hp enough? What is it you wanted to use it for? I'd be saying no, but that's just me.... Since it's 2nd hand, I guess it could be cheap, and then you can see how much you use it and what it's capable of, and make a more informed decision for the next purchase, if it has shortcomings?
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25th January 2019, 01:44 PM #6
Here is the original supplier but their ad says 1 1/2hp. They have been around since 1997 as their website states so they can't be doing too bad a job.
The design looks very similar to my Carbatec 14" and I have no problems with that. Not at home so can't check the power rating but I have no trouble resawing up to 150mm. I haven't had the need to try its full capacity of 200mm so can't comment on that.
Update, checked mine and its only 1 hp so providing you're not sawing big hardwood logs you should be okay even if its not the 1 1/2hp advertised on their site.Dallas
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25th January 2019, 06:59 PM #7GOLD MEMBER
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Strangely, I had this appear in my facebook feed earlier today as well - after I'd replied originally.
At $600 (what it's currently listed at) it's a bit on the high side of pricing for me. Maybe by $100. That's around what I paid for my 14" Sherwood Deluxe (pretty similar model) but it has a 1500w motor (I've checked now for realz - its the 1500w same as this model https://www.timbecon.com.au/sawing/1...ep-rip-bandsaw)
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26th January 2019, 08:35 AM #8Senior Member
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Contacted the seller and offered $400 to take of his hands ASAP, bird in the hand kind of logic.
He said he’d not go lower than $600 and if can’t sell for that he’d keep it. Claims to have paid over $900 for it 2-3 yrs ago.
Went to a Total tools shop yesterday and they have the cheaper Carbatec 14in saw for sale (the one with non standard mitre track) and their own brand Renegade 14in for sale at $719. Side by side the two machines are almost identical with casinos, panels, knobs, motors and junction boxes, table tilting devices etc. the Carbatec is also made cheaper as it doesn’t have a lot of knobs and no bearing height adjustment rack and pinion.
I wouldn’t pay the $600 the seller is asking when I can buy brand new $100-200 more!
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26th January 2019, 09:37 PM #9
Hi,
As luck would have it I finally found the time to set up my carbatec bas-350c today. The guides and the slider on the saw are identical to what you show from QWS.
I found a couple of surprises today. No adjustable stop for 90 or 45. The 90 I can sort easily with a nut setter and a bolt. It could even be done by glueing a bit of timber on and adding and adjustment screw. The 45 I have no solution for but once I can trim the 90 stop, I can probably adjust the pointer at least.
The grunion sits to one side on these and doesn’t move as easily as you would like.
I took the time to adjust the guides as best I could only to find when I moved the slider up that one of the guide rollers was rubbing hard on the blade. I.e. the slider is not parallel to the blade. I can see that I can add some shims behind the lower bolts to correct that.
3/8 mitre slots and having to remove the fence to change blades are other downsides. If I knew then what I know now...
Regards,
Greg
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26th January 2019, 10:08 PM #10Senior Member
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Are these Carbatec BS’s any good? 2002 SBW-3501HC?
3/4hp looks to be a problem. Can’t tell if a 12 or 14in BS
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26th January 2019, 10:09 PM #11Senior Member
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26th January 2019, 10:13 PM #12GOLD MEMBER
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14" unit for sure. https://www.oavequipment.com/en/prod...BW-3501D1.html
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26th January 2019, 11:48 PM #13GOLD MEMBER
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I am only a beginner but this definitely depends if you are going to do any resawing. Mine is 1.1kw 1.5hp and it struggles to resaw some Aussie hardwoods. I wouldn't go lower than this.
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27th January 2019, 12:00 AM #14GOLD MEMBER
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I am only a beginner but this definitely depends if you are going to do any resawing. Mine is 1.1kw 1.5hp and it struggles to resaw some Aussie hardwoods. I wouldn't go lower than this.
I agree with you that you are better off to spend another $200 and get a new one anyway.
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2nd February 2019, 09:54 AM #15Senior Member
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When it comes to Australian hardwoods, horsepower is your friend! So is a sharp blade and a steady feed. 2HP would be my minimum motor size. Remember that all the horsepower in the world will do you no good if your saw blade is even slightly dull! You need to keep the blade sharp and if the cut starts to do strange things (that it didn't do before) then the first place to look is the sharpness of the blade. Hare and Forbes have a 14", 2HP machine for around the $1,000 mark. They are nice and heavy which is always a good thing in a bandsaw and mine seems to be well built.
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