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    Yes, there's a bonus CD, I'm looking a 'woodworking' and 'blacksmithing', both look promising.

    BTW, the second LNHTE went very well with more saw orders including several from members of the Society of American Period Furniture Makers who had the spot next to us. I think we'll be going regularly. Pictures here later, tired now.
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    I'll look forward to the pix in due course.

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    Been away from the fun work for a while but today I managed to get one of the No. 9's handled up (Bubinga). I think I'm going to taper grind this plate as well. Waiting on a big box of files from Italy...

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    Looks good Rob.

    Do you have any specialised equipment for the taper grinding process. I think this process is potentially the most difficult of any applied to the saw plate.

    My memory is of seeing some film of Disston using what can only be described as a humungus bench grinder on steroids. More like a sandstone grinder, but huge.

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    Hi Paul,

    No, nothing special. I use a 6X48 belt grinder, hold the saw plate up to the moving belt and apply pressure using my gloved hand. Dangerous to do but it works if done carefully.

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    Set the screws and bushings, finished rough profiling.

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    Great to see Rob,
    And great to see your back in the thick of it.
    Cheers Matt

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    Tapergrinding done. I re-toothed to 12 PPI, sharpened (15o fleam, zero slope, 12o rake crosscut) and set as I realized that the majority of the saws I've made lately have been rip. I also finished the handle. Some niggles here and there but it's ready now for engraving. I think I'm going to drop the back further down into the handle, it's about 3 mm above it's seat in this pic but I'm thinking 5mm deeper would look better.

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    Browsing around eBay today I happened across this: RARE Disston Steel Back Closed Handle Stair Hand Saw Collectible Carpentry Tool | eBay

    This looks like a No. 4 miter saw that's been butchered to look like my No. 9 Gauge saw bearing the No. 4 style handle which Paul has graciously proven is a factory configuration .

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    Rob

    I think that saw would have been a normal backsaw rather a mitre saw. I'm probably being a little pedantic here but I was going to point to the mitre saw always having a scalloped piece out of the heel like this:

    Disston No.4 Mitre saw 1906 catalogue.jpg

    This was Disston's mitre saw from 1906 through to 1928. The quoted length of the saw was about two inches less than the tooth line and this is in keeping with the Simonds mitre saws, which looked identical. However, I thought I had better check my facts .

    This is from the 1890 catalogue:

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    and this is from the 1929 catalogue following the general revamp of the whole range in 1928:

    Disston No.4 mitre saw 1929 catalogue.jpg

    There is some curvature on the blade in 1929, but the early saw is indistinguishable from the back saw (apart from the depth under the back). Mitre saws started at 18" through to 32" and back saws were made up to 18" long.

    So not nearly as conclusive as I had first thought, but I would still lean towards the saw having been made from a back saw. I note that the blade is 14" long and also that somebody has pointed out that it looks like a cut down No.4 in the questions section. To his credit the seller has posted this information, but has retained the $299 asking price which may be asking for trouble when an unsuspecting buyer twigs the saw is worth 40 bucks as a user.

    However, all that is academic as the point is all about your saw which looks very good. I think you could really describe it as a three quarter back.

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    Paul,

    I think I remember reading somewhere that all of the miter saws were considered to be No. 4's by the factory, they were simply longer and in some cases deeper cutting versions. I like the miter saws even though the larger sizes are almost useless as stand-alone saws.

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    Yes Rob, you are right that they are listed as a No.4, but they did have a different profile at the heel (mostly) despite this. I think the No.4 particularly refers to the style of back. In the case of the No.4 it was blued, the No.5 is brass and the No.7 was polished steel.

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    I re-profiled the lower rail, set the back lower in its mortise and refinished.

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    More No. 9's, and others in the works.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rob streeper View Post
    I re-profiled the lower rail, set the back lower in its mortise and refinished.

    IMG_4565-1.jpg

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    Rob I which I had half the time you seem to have.
    Plus the access to materials you guys half on your side of the pond.
    Well done the saws look fantastic.

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