Just a couple of saws

**Ron Bontz** · 19th February 2016, 03:41 PM

So if I get really lucky, I may actually finish this with out being bumped offline. ( Reset )
I am sitting here waiting for some wood to bake in the oven ( another story ) and thought I would post a couple of saws I made recently. Posted on woodnet and Sawmill creek. So sorry if it is redundant.
First is as 24" cross cut I made for The Kilted Woodworker ( Wears a Kilt while woodworking )

It is a 24" toothline 12ppi 15* rake and 25*fleam. The teeth were rather difficult to set on a 0.042" plate. Tapered to approx. 0.038 at the spine. We tried laser engraving on the handle, but I don't care for it much. Either way it is my redesigned cross cut handle.
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Next is my Rip version I basically just finished the other day. Hopefully it is original enough to be distinct. Some elements like the thumb hole was borrowed from Wheeler, Madden, Clemsen. It was filed 26" tooth line x 6ppi x 5* rake and 0* fleam. Handle is Sapele.
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Then a few gents were made and filed 16 to 20 ppi.
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Lastly I made a couple of the 32* hang dovetails with one in Madrone Burl.
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That's about it for me. As always, every thing a work in progress and thoughts welcome.

**hiroller** · 19th February 2016, 11:18 PM

An interesting mix Ron and nicely executed as usual.
I see you have joined filed of tapered blades, is this done by hand?

**Ron Bontz** · 20th February 2016, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by hiroller

An interesting mix Ron and nicely executed as usual.
I see you have joined filed of tapered blades, is this done by hand?

Yes. A bit tedious and silicon carbide does not hold up well. Working on a different way, but I really do not have much call for it.

**rob streeper** · 20th February 2016, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by Ron Bontz

Yes. A bit tedious and silicon carbide does not hold up well. Working on a different way, but I really do not have much call for it.

I find that taper grinding is desired, people just don't like paying for it. Thus my motivation for coming up with a better, read faster and easier, method of producing tapered blades.

**Ron Bontz** · 20th February 2016, 12:23 PM

Tapered blades are a needed aspect of panel and hand saws to relieve the excessive set that would be otherwise required to avoid that pinch while cutting. Particularly on rip saws. Not so much on cross cut since the wood, for the most part, does not really move in that direction. Joinery saws, I have found no evidence for need. My half backs ( deep cross cut saw ) certainly have no need. Filing them rip, while OK, is not their forte'. The masters were cutting fine dovetails hundreds of years ago and doing it quite well, long before the trend of thin kerfs became an obsession to some. Still, I may someday make a pseudo 77. Just because. I personally think the no set plates came about out of the desire to not have to set the teeth. Faster to sharpen and no worries about uneven set.

SO who really knows what was going through the minds of the old masters and their tool makers. Wouldn't it be great if Henry Diston and others had diaries we could read. Void of all the marketing hype we so often take as fact. "It must be true, It says so right here in the advertising flyer" Indeed, I am a cynic at heart.

Best wishes.

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