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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
    Yes. Yes. How could I have missed that? I knew I was warming to the environment: It's almost like being at home. Coincidentally today I treated myself to a set of concrete steps into my "saw" container. Since I raised the container to avoid the termites ( they do get altitude sickness don't they) it has been too great a step for this example of mankind.

    But yours is "forty" foot. I'm in awe. Make no mistake, size counts.

    The Camp Oven Festival exhibition of hand saws went very well and I will post a quick report, but I didn't take any pix and I am waiting on pix from one of the shakers and movers, who said she had taken a photo of me exercising my jaw in the company of visitors to the stand.

    Maybe next week when she sends the pix (may only be one pic). Actually, if she hasn't caught my good side, there won't be any pix!

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    That back looks super spiffy

    I'd be inclined to leave the etch as it is - in 100 years or so imagine how it's going to look on ebay or how they are going to research it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawdust Maker View Post
    That back looks super spiffy

    I'd be inclined to leave the etch as it is - in 100 years or so imagine how it's going to look on ebay or how they are going to research it!
    Leave the etch ??
    They may have trouble researching
    After the net crashes for the third time
    And there in a digital void lol

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    Hi Matt,

    Really like what you've done with the back. How will you inlet it? Full depth or only the bottom of the cylindrical part?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simplicity View Post
    We avoided termites by buying ex French army ones I'm sure they nucked the floor lol

    Please don't take us of subject PAUL [emoji6]
    Matt

    The allegation of a digression is a very serious matter. You will certainly need concrete evidence to back up such a statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob streeper View Post
    Hi Matt,

    Really like what you've done with the back. How will you inlet it? Full depth or only the bottom of the cylindrical part?

    Cheers,
    Rob
    Thanks Rob,
    I'm going to inlet like you say, to just half cylindrical depth.
    That's going to be a fun thing to attempt.
    Cheers Matt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
    Matt

    The allegation of a digression is a very serious matter. You will certainly need concrete evidence to back up such a statement.

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    Paul,
    Dear sir that is at best a weak attempt to dis rail this thread.
    You would need a ton of concrete on a see saw to get the kind of manic thread chasing you are becoming famous for.

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    Matt

    On a more serious note, was the forming of the back a difficult operation? Of course it was and I imagine in the first instance it would have to be shaped around a piece of rod in, but there was also some mention of a hammering process. I can visualise some hammering but not without horrendous marks left behind. There is absolutely no evidence of this at all, which may be testimony to your skill.

    Hammering also I would have thought would potentially lead to the back going out of true. Certainly from the pix this is not the case. I am hugely impressed with both the design, the technique and the finish. It is such a departure from the norm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
    Matt

    On a more serious note, was the forming of the back a difficult operation? Of course it was and I imagine in the first instance it would have to be shaped around a piece of rod in, but there was also some mention of a hammering process. I can visualise some hammering but not without horrendous marks left behind. There is absolutely no evidence of this at all, which may be testimony to your skill.

    Hammering also I would have thought would potentially lead to the back going out of true. Certainly from the pix this is not the case. I am hugely impressed with both the design, the technique and the finish. It is such a departure from the norm.

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    I started to write a how to but I don't have pics.
    And YOU really really need to see some pics.
    So I will do a how to next time I'm back in my huge 40 foot creative zone.

    The forming of the back I believe is in the realm of most people.
    It's not as difficult as may seem, but it does take some basic understanding of how metal moves and behaves.
    And it's not fast this one owes me about 5 hours so far.
    One of the big things is which tool to use and also when.
    The tools are not complicated

    Plus a metal vice


    Yes your right it was shaped around a solid steel bar of around 8 mm
    First being basically squeeze in to shape with a vice
    I also started with a V shape of metal it was cut from a 50 mm square section
    Like this

    That's the fast part then the hammering starts using something like this basically a flat cold chisel.

    Thing to remember steel hit with steel over steel will most times stretch steel thin it out
    Steel hit with a heavy but forgiving weight like this brass faced hammer

    Will just move the metal especially if done over a another forgiving material ie hard timber.

    If you look closely there were plenty of scars blemishes
    These were then filled out using my old body mans body file.
    Plus a fair bit of sandpaper.

    And of course at times it starts to get out of true.
    Back to the hammers tap tap check
    Tap tap tap check and on you go.
    Yes it's a slow steady sport
    I still have some work to do on this one there's a few scratches I want to take out.
    But I forgot to take pics of them[emoji849]
    So if you can hang of a bit I do a how to with pics.
    But please have a go it's not really that difficult.
    Ferries use to be shaped with only a few more hammers than what I've used.
    And a lump of tree.
    But you do need patience [emoji3].

    Cheers Matt
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    Well .
    Firstly, I'm all most embarrassed to even write here.
    I've secretly hoped Ian would delete this entirely ,but that also would be taking the easy way out lol.

    Ok ,so while at the Katoomba gtg ,a few weeks back .
    I had the pleasure of meeting ,Bushmiller(Paul) face to face what a lovely Chappy.
    Of course, I brought this saw ,the one I've been making for ever it seems(bloody life gets in the way of more important stuff ,more often than not lately (lol)
    Paul ,very graciously and kindly pointed out a small flaw that myself imposed ego saw not to see.
    This point was then reinforced by Brett latter ,that evening after we had all had a few of Paul's spiced rum .
    Brett's quote and I appreciate is honesty and not mucking about with fluffiness .
    Matt, you do like them small don't you lol.
    O ,the shame the disgrace my bloody blindness ,yes ,they were both right .
    The hand grip ,is a fraction to small for me .
    My hand size is proberly average to just under .
    When the saw is gripped my fingers, wrap around and I can touch my palm with my fingers WRONG.
    Brett ,than gave me one of Ian saws that he has .
    Ian your saw fitted and felt a lot more comfortable in hand.
    Why because, in the grip area yours are fatter than mine ,by about 5 mm I estimate,
    Here I was trying to beat the master.
    That just shows how much of a whipper snippet I am lol.
    So with nothing better to do ,the old handle will now sit proudly in my shop as a reminder not to be a know all lol.

    Out of myself ,imposed misery.
    I had a weekend in my creative zone ,to say I was a happy Chappy is a huge understatement lol.
    Out with a piece of burl ,thickened to about 24 mm at present(fragile possibly the wrong choice possibly the wrong timber but my ego made me to it)
    Hogged out some holes,sawed out the waste and started to shape again.
    This has also aloud me to address a few points I wasent happy with the last one.
    Of course ,the main one being the grip slightly bigger this time for my hands.


    Revised budget and completion date .
    Some time before I retire lol.

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    See if you can get one of the pen makers to resin infuse the burl


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    Quote Originally Posted by DSEL74 View Post
    See if you can get one of the pen makers to resin infuse the burl


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    That thought crossed my mind
    But this thing is heavy
    I suspect it's solid all the way through
    The off cuts show no voids that I can see

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    Matt

    Don't feel bad or even embarrassed over that handle. Firstly, it was a superb handle very well crafted. The error, if it indeed was an error is just part of the learning process and one I am going through at the moment. There is one backsaw I am making and I am in fact on the fourth handle for it. I am not going to let it beat me, but it has worn me down some!

    I should be back into it soon, but a house that demands my attention for painting has taken most of the available time. Today a shed temperature of 42.1 degC didn't help a lot either. Xmas calls too with some pressies to complete.

    The new handle looks the part. I think you have nailed the balance. You didn't say what type of burl it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
    Matt

    Don't feel bad or even embarrassed over that handle. Firstly, it was a superb handle very well crafted. The error, if it indeed was an error is just part of the learning process and one I am going through at the moment. There is one backsaw I am making and I am in fact on the fourth handle for it. I am not going to let it beat me, but it has worn me down some!

    I should be back into it soon, but a house that demands my attention for painting has taken most of the available time. Today a shed temperature of 42.1 degC didn't help a lot either. Xmas calls too with some pressies to complete.

    The new handle looks the part. I think you have nailed the balance. You didn't say what type of burl it is.

    Regards
    Paul
    Thanks Paul
    Only slightly embarrassed because of the lack of time I have.
    Which really is just is.
    Wow four handles that's got to hurt a bit
    Have you tried some spiced rum to help
    Or may I suggest a dirty granny maybe lol
    42.1 that's not nice I would think about turning the fridge into a very small workshop if possible

    Personally I can't wait for Boxing Day [emoji3][emoji3]

    Cheers Matt

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    Red Mallee burl
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