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22nd September 2016, 07:46 PM #1
Are there actually any decent garden hose fittings???
I've tried quite a few over the years, brass and plastic, and they all seem to develop leaks or need constant re-tightening. Not scared to spend a few bucks on something decent.
The situation is that I'll have to run ~30m of hose from the back of the hoose down to the vege garden. If I could find some reliable non-leaky fittings I could just do it with conventional hose (preferably with one ~30m length).
Failing that, can I use blue water pipe as a garden hose (sorta, kinda )? Does cold water pipe have to always be buried to 600mm or can it run along the exterior walls of buildings? There are existing water pipes (H&C) attached to the side of this house.
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22nd September 2016, 07:55 PM #2
Subscribed. They all last a year or two in the Aussie sun and then they're leaking like a sieve.
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22nd September 2016, 08:15 PM #3
What about black poly irrigation pipe? The fittings for this stuff seems to last for years in the sun with no problems. I have outdoor taps fitted with electronic timers feeding this poly piping and it runs along existing fencing.
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22nd September 2016, 08:20 PM #4
Good thought CT - you mean the black pipe that's about 1" OD?. I don't want to run on timers though. Fairly regular rain up here usually, and the water spread needs to be different for different plants.
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22nd September 2016, 08:39 PM #5
Brett I would second using black 1" poly pipe. What is your pressure like though? There are different grades in the poly. The base line would be rural, they call this low pressure, then there is green striped which would handle town pressure. I would come off the garden tap with a ball valve so you can quickly shut off the garden line should put a spade through it. Run it along the fence (what ever is convenient) when you get to the garden come up vertically with some ¾" gal with a normal brass tap, then your garden hose. Two things to be aware of though, heavy frost is a possible problem if the water in the pipe expands and in summer you will have free hot water for the fist couple of gallons that run through. Other than that you would be...."home and hosed"....sorry couldn't resist
Just do it!
Kind regards Rod
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22nd September 2016, 08:40 PM #6
I'm running 25mm poly pipe above ground (shed wall) from my water tanks to 'normal' brass taps nearer to the 'garden'. The plastic fittings are virtually completely covered by the pipe so I'm not expecting any UV issues with the fittings and the pipe itself is showing no Sun damage?
I use normal garden hose from the brass taps and the bigger 25mm pipe helps to deliver a much larger volume to the tap under gravity only.
flettya rock is an obsolete tool ......... until you don’t have a hammer!
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22nd September 2016, 09:18 PM #7
Weeelllll.....there is actually some kind of damn fool irrigation system already in place, coming of the back of hoose tap or similar. It had scores & scores of metres of perforated pipe that has been removed as necessary during all the excavating etc.
I'll have to investigate the outlet at the hoose and see what gives. Perhaps I can run it from the outlet down the fence to the existing shed, down the side of the shed and then across to the garden in a shallow grave. Only the very last foot or two would be exposed to light, and I could paint it to keep the UV off it.
Fletty, how did you connect the black poly to the tap?
Water pressure here is pretty good actually.
Still interested to hear from anyone who has discovered some excellent hose fittings though (for the last bit of the journey).
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22nd September 2016, 09:33 PM #8
I can recommend Hoselink fittings, have been using them for about 15 years or so. At the hose end, they have a tube that goes into the hose to support it, and a slotted olive slides over the hose. The fitting body and the nut both have tapers matching the olive so that the olive is compreesed onto the hose while tightening. Never leak at the hose/fitting junction.
Fittings join to fittings with a camlock style mechanism, align and turn about 60 degrees, each fitting has an O ring and the rotation brings the O rings into firm contact. Only two issues I have experienced with them in 15 yrs is that you cannot break the connection while the hose is under pressure, as you will eject at least one of the O rings, and they can get blasted a few metres. Turn off at tap, release pressure at outlet device if it has flow control or trigger etc, then break the connection.
Second issue is a pain but a good one, they outlast any hose I have tried, even the ones with a 10yr guarantee. Not a hassle till it comes time to replace the hose, when it can take 10mins or so to release each fitting for reuse.
They also supply a fitted 30m x 18m hose for $99.I used to be an engineer, I'm not an engineer any more, but on the really good days I can remember when I was.
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22nd September 2016, 09:41 PM #9
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22nd September 2016, 10:06 PM #10
They look damn good Mal. There seems to be a few vids on Youtube. This one was very helpful:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwuV3LYe3xE
Hoselink site:
https://www.hoselink.com.au
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22nd September 2016, 11:51 PM #11SENIOR MEMBER
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I'll second Malb's opinion. Haven't had Hoselink's fittings for that long but haven't found a leak at the connections yet!
Yvan
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23rd September 2016, 10:30 AM #12SENIOR MEMBER
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We have two hoselink 30 metre hose reels and ,bought them on their promise of no leaks at the fittings but had leaks on three
Found that the hose ends were not cut square as they say on their fitting video,i am sure they came from the factory like that
Refited and all well now,I sent photos to hoselink,their reply, sorry you had that happen will look into the problem
I needed to replace a O ring but no problem there i think that is just maintenance as you get some spares with the hose reels
Over all a very good quality product, so far ahead of any other hose and reel i have ever had
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23rd September 2016, 05:15 PM #13SENIOR MEMBER
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I think given that its a regular use/handled item and given that its regularly under pressure leaks are fairly norm even with high end stuff. Similar things happen to dust collectors that get moved around the shop eventually they develop leaks/cracks. If on the other hand your fittings are actually failing due to weathering might be too inconvenient but a simple solution might be to put them away when not used or build an enclosure for your hose if too inconvenient. I've got a couple of hoses around my place and the one thats under cover hasn't given me any issues despite being a bunnings cheapo plastic fitting whilst the ones out in full sun fail fairly quickly, so now for the taps out in the open i attach a hose to them when needed and store in shed when not used, seems to be working so far.
Alternatively I second the use of black poly, fairly simple to set up it does end up costing more due to all the fittings, but a drip system works very well for vegie patches and because you're not dragging it/handling it they rarely leak
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24th September 2016, 12:51 AM #14
I always buy brass hose ends/fittings, the plastic ones don't last, I've got some ends on two of my hoses that are still going strong after 20years, Neta rings a bell but I'll have to check, I did buy some new hose a while back (2+ years) with brass ends on already fitted but they are crap, design is 3 balls that retain the plug in gadget, (spray nozzle) a little bit of wear and the balls either won't disengage or engage with the groove in the plug in gadget, bloody annoying, I've had it apart a couple of times to file any burrs off and give the balls a bit of a lead in but they are still crap, I have now replaced it, I keep it to sneer at and threaten it with one day going into the furnace
Pete
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