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    Quote Originally Posted by Allison74 View Post
    ..I'll add the pics to my collection of SO pics if you don't mind.
    I don't mind. I only wish I'd got more and better pikkies.

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    Default More SO Photos.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vann View Post
    ...I only wish I'd got more and better pikkies.
    I don't know about "better", but I've got two "more".

    aWhite11.jpg Right hand side.

    aWhite10.jpg Manufacturer's tag.

    Edit: Looking back at Allison's cattledog cut, I see this is a No.2 "SO" (as the motor tag says 6hp 1430 rpm) which means this is the bigger model and takes up to a 26" blade.

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    Default Another for Alli.

    Quote Originally Posted by Allison74 View Post
    ...Their SO is really interesting. design. Unlike a conventional pendulum saw this one cuts horizontal like a radial arm.
    Attachment 391738
    Here's another cattledog cut (photographed today).

    SO cat.jpg

    I don't fancy ordering one by telegraph - I'd get those code letters mixed for sure .

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    Hi Vann,
    Thanks for those pics!
    A White catalogue....!
    Thanks.
    Have fun,
    Alli

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    Default White Catalogue

    Quote Originally Posted by Allison74 View Post
    ...A White catalogue....!
    Better still (with thanks to AndyT on ukworkshop). I hope the link works.

    https://www.scosarg.com/browse_leaflets?brand=White

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    Hi Vann,
    Thanks for that.
    Lots of interesting stuff there. I looked for someone's Stenner saw catalogue but no luck, he'll just have to be patient.
    The only Pickles machine there was the stair trencher.

    The leaflet for the SO was obviously a much newer one than the one I have so they clearly made the saw for quite a few years before they disappeared in 1975. Part of the great British machinery massacre that saw Wadkin left alone after a great spree of some great "entrepreneur"/ money grubbing A.., buying out the competition and asset stripping.
    That style of pendulum saw and the later variants continued for years in the Euro machine market.

    Thanks again!!

    Have fun,
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    That's a great resource Vann, I thought all of the manuals had gone. Have you seen the history section, its a bit of a disgrace that a company of Daltons repute cant be bothered to get the correct story. I mean John Wadkin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allison74 View Post
    ...I looked for someone's Stenner saw catalogue but no luck, he'll just have to be patient...
    Yeah I looked for that too, also at the museum where I found the other White catalogue.

    But Camoz seems to have dropped off the face of the Earth. He hasn't posted for nearly a year, and he had a few health issues before that. I sincerely hope he's still with us. I put out some feelers before Christmas, but nobody has confirmed they've made contact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vann View Post
    Here's another cattledog cut (photographed today).

    SO cat.jpg

    I don't fancy ordering one by telegraph - I'd get those code letters mixed for sure .

    Cheers, Vann.
    Nice pictures from that catalogue Vann . Great link too . I have a lovely white chisel and chain I purchased from Matty a while back .
    Its earlier than the machines in the link . Probably 20s . Ill have to show it off . or did Matty show it here when it was his ?

    Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by auscab View Post
    ...I have a lovely white chisel and chain I purchased from Matty a while back .
    Its earlier than the machines in the link . Probably 20s . Ill have to show it off . or did Matty show it here when it was his ?
    Nope - you'll have to show it off .

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    Nice old piece . Mattys catalog picture as well.
    Originally flat belt driven , its now got a 3 phase motor mounted on the side.
    White 5.jpgIMG_2733a.jpgIMG_2734a.jpgwhite 3.jpg

    White 6.jpgWhite 7.jpg

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    Default White ED.

    And back on topic again...

    I went to look at a saw today. Actually, I went to look at three saws, but then saw a fourth. At first glance I thought it was a Wadkin CC, or maybe an AC as it didn't look quite right for a CC (there are several variations and at least three different motor types on CCs).

    ED1.jpg

    But when I got closer I could see it wasn't a Wadkin at all.

    ED2.jpg

    It's a White ED - same as Woodlogics (but with a bit more rust).

    ED3.jpg

    ED5.jpg

    Enjoy.

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    What a sight !
    Why were they there, was it for building a house nearby or was it a workshop or mill at some stage ?

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    Default Sad Bastards Convention.

    Quote Originally Posted by auscab View Post
    ...Why were they there, was it for building a house nearby or was it a workshop or mill at some stage ?
    The guy didn't say. He was a bit quiet and maybe a bit reclusive. There was no evidence of a mill, only a partially completed house (but who needs four radio alarm saws to build a house?).

    CK1.jpg Wadkin CK 1011 of 1946.

    CC1.jpg Wadkin CC 3739 of 1962

    And if you look carefully under the 'tail' of that CC, you can just make out a Trojan radio alarm saw.

    CC2.jpg

    They've all been out in the rain for several years (judging by the depth of rust on the CK).

    All rather sad really .

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    Default Details.

    I had a chance to take another look at the ED yesterday afternoon, and took the opportunity to photograph some details of the machine.

    Intergral electrical switchgear cabinet,

    White10.jpg

    Knob on the blade cover.

    White11.jpg Not as practical as the 'star' knob on a Wadkin - but much cuter.

    On/Off switch (which may or may not be a White item).

    White12.jpg I love the little hinged cover on the Stop button.

    Motor.

    White16.jpg Very 'steam punk'.

    Wheel out front for height adjustment.

    White15.jpg

    Towards the back, between the arm and the carriage track is the tilt mechanism.
    ED2.jpg White14.jpg White13.jpg Lovely.

    Unfortunately the weather has had its wicked way with this saw. Restoration is no longer just a derust and paint. Here's an indication of the depth of rust on the carriage rails

    White19.jpg

    I can't see the carriage tracking accurately on those rails when derusted. Time for new rails. Many other steel parts are also suspect (cast iron having weathered better - as it does), and everything appears seized.

    Cheers, Vann.
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