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    Default Thomas White Radial Arm Saw

    Hi folks,

    For some time I've been after a Wadkin CD crosscut saw. A few weeks ago I came across a Thomas White ED model - the thing was just so gorgeous I couldn't resist, well, at least for the time being until I find a CD. The shape and form of this machine is very unique. From the goose neck frame to the arched back, it really is unique. Would be great if anyone has a catalogue of the machine to show.

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    I love it, am I right in thinking the table moves up/down. It looks like it shouldn't be stood up. I've got a CC but its way down the line.

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    Very sexy !!


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    Why would you want a CD now? That thing is great it's got th long spindle too. Do the chips blow out the very back of the drop box?
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    Quote Originally Posted by L.S.Barker1970 View Post
    Very sexy !!
    I agree. A beauty.

    The Wadkin CD is a very clunky looking machine in comparison.

    My tuppence worth.

    Cheers, Vann.

    ps. You could call it Edward

    Quote Originally Posted by L.S.Barker1970
    Very sexy !!
    Oops. Maybe Edwina...
    Last edited by Vann; 22nd August 2016 at 01:56 PM. Reason: Oops
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    Oh Verynice indeed.
    There is no way you'll want to trade down to a Wadkin CD after that. But if you do then you won't have a problem finding a few interested buyers.
    White made some really interesting machines.
    Their SO is really interesting. design. Unlike a conventional pendulum saw this one cuts horizontal like a radial arm.
    Iwhite_zpsa600e2ef.jpg

    Have fun,
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    I am always impressed by the White kit. the first in many designs and top of the heap. there the only UK maker that i know of that made a flip up table over under the first to do parallelogram planer table and sanders for thicknessing wide panel's and doors.

    these saw are not a RAS that Dewalt claims to have invented. these were referred to as straight line cross cut and trenching machines. this one has got to be the best as it has the pivot right over the fence so the blade comes out a small hole. Must be very balanced. The rail bearings on these saws are set very far apart when compared to the carage of the RAS and so have way less play in the travel hence straight line . The White has machined ways and not drill rod for the bearings like the Wadkin and it would be nice to see how that is holding up or what previsions for ware are engineered in . Also the roller cartage is part of the motor/saw and the rails are fixed to the base casting . On the Wadkin the rail in part of the motor/saw and cast in aluminum to cut the weight . would be less fatigue on the operator on the White. the tilt gear has got to be the best i have seen though there was a Porter made in the US that had some what the same thing just not as nice. lastly that drop box for the blade is killer in design for both dust and safety and does not fault when the blade motor is tipped/tilted.
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    Amazing saw Raymond ! Its a Rare Gem.

    I cant get over the amount of cast iron you have to move when you will be raising or lowering the cut !!

    I suppose it just comes down to gearing and oil , but its a lot of iron! Ill be looking forward to hearing how it feels and works .

    It just looks like it will be full of surprises , and with White's reputation I bet they are all good surprises.

    It would be a pity to cover the view of the saw with to much wood for a table , perhaps a more see through metal fabrication with rollers ??

    Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allison74 View Post
    ...White made some really interesting machines.

    Their SO is really interesting. design. Unlike a conventional pendulum saw this one cuts horizontal like a radial arm.
    Iwhite_zpsa600e2ef.jpg
    Looks like wallace has found one, crammed in a corner, in the UK somewhere.

    aWhite SO 1.jpg aWhite SO 2.jpg Photos stolen from a "wallace" post on the Canadian forum.

    I agree - a really interesting design.

    Cheers, Vann.
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    Hi Vann,
    I hope he manages to find one. Those pics are from a few years ago on Ebay if I recall. I hunted for a long time for more. The only other one I found was this one at Chatham Naval museum.

    428px-Im20100803Chat-White_zpsac67f859.jpg

    They are an interesting design,. Because they use a Watts Linkage the saw actually stays horizontal through its full range of swing, it doesn't swing in an arc. Also because the frame rotation point is under the pivot point the blade will always cut through the same point regardless of what angle it is set at just like a Uni-pont or the White radial arm that's in the first post. They were a very innovative company. Pity they fell victim to the machinery wars in the 70's in the UK.

    The chances of finding one are probably close to zero, pity!!
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    I just checked Wallace's post. He found that one, it's in the identical position it was in the photos from years ago. He should buy it!! Pity it's on the other side of the world.
    Have fun,
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    As soon as I said nice pendulum saw the guy who is a machine dealer said its not for sale.

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    Is that your Hyco scroll saw in the background?
    Lyle.

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    There is a 10 min film of manufacturing in the White factory here:
    Full record for 'THOMAS WHITE & SONS PAISLEY' (3223) - Moving Image Archive catalogue

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    Default Another White SO

    My daughter and I have just got back from a trip up the North Island, visiting rellys.

    Stopped at a timber museum just south of Putaruru (on SH1 in case anybody wants to look it up in the future). I regret that I was short of time, and space on my camera's memory card (and that I'm not a better photographer).

    However, I took these photos of a White model "SO" on display...

    aWhiteSO1.jpg aWhiteSO2.jpg aWhiteSO3.jpg

    aWhiteSO4.jpg "Beltless Drive" motor tag.

    The motor pivots, and has a very interesting (and slightly un-nerving first try) upward arc in it's travel - which is, of course, how it provides a straight cut. I wish I'd had more time to suss the Watts linkage.

    Anyways, posted for you amusement. Enjoy.

    Cheers, Vann.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vann View Post
    My daughter and I have just got back from a trip up the North Island, visiting rellys.

    Stopped at a timber museum just south of Putaruru (on SH1 in case anybody wants to look it up in the future). I regret that I was short of time, and space on my camera's memory card (and that I'm not a better photographer).

    However, I took these photos of a White model "SO" on display...

    aWhiteSO1.jpg aWhiteSO2.jpg aWhiteSO3.jpg

    aWhiteSO4.jpg "Beltless Drive" motor tag.

    The motor pivots, and has a very interesting (and slightly un-nerving first try) upward arc in it's travel - which is, of course, how it provides a straight cut. I wish I'd had more time to suss the Watts linkage.

    Anyways, posted for you amusement. Enjoy.

    Cheers, Vann.

    Thanks for the pics Vann, I would love to find one of them, they just look so cool.
    I'll add the pics to my collection of SO pics if you don't mind.

    Thanks again,
    Have fun,
    Alli

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