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    I thought the knob on the double mitre looked a bit robinson'sh . I agree its probably not a pk but an earlier incarnation

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallace1973 View Post
    I thought the knob on the double mitre looked a bit robinson'sh...
    I looked at that knob and decided it didn't look right, then decided it must be a knurled steel knob (ref: Generation 1 or 2 - as discussed on CWW). But on reflection, I think you're right - its closer to an oval doorknob shape - like a Robinson knob.

    Jack knows his Pre-PKs probably better than any of us. Hopefully he'll be along shortly to tell us the most likely contenders.

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    This is some of the saws from the 1924 catalogue . No guard fitted to the tilting slider . They probably added them later ?
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    Here are two pics of the PL canting table saw and PM fixed table saw.
    The guard shown is also shown on the PJ double dimension saw in my catalogue.
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    Default PK pics.

    I think these may be the first appearance of the PK in a catalogue.
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    Thanks Henry.

    The crown guard support bracket - shown on the top saw on page 22 of Henry's cattledog - is almost certainly what we're seeing on that machine in the corner of the machine store photograph. The only obvious different (to me anyway) is the double mitre gauge on the saw in the machine store photo vrs a single mitre gauge on the PL & PM illustrations.

    mPLpage22.jpg machine store.jpg

    It's not possible to see from those illustrations, whether the fixed table PM has the same arm arrangement, or the PK style of crown arm attached to the table itself. However, I note that page 20 states:

    "Machine with canting table admits 21" between saw and ripping fence, with saw guard." while the saw with fixed table only "...admits 19"... ...with saw guard." suggesting the arm is attached 2" closer to the table of the PM (fixed table) saw. Both saws claim the same max. capacity - 24" - with the guard removed.

    Also of interest to me is the riving knife, mounted on the crown guard arm.

    macPLpage20.jpg

    Which explains the triangular shape that was puzzling me in the machine store photograph.

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    And I'm prepared to change my mind on the style of knob on the mitre fences. I believe it's the same knurled steel knob found on the mitre fences of the first two generations of PK saw.

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    I wonder why the casting that goes up and down the crown guard support bracket is inverted on some machines

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    Quote Originally Posted by clear out View Post
    Here is the Patternshop from the other direction...
    Sometimes you just don't see stuff until you need to.

    In the corner of this photo...

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    ...is a Wadkin RB buzzer (identical to the one I acquired last month).

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    Clear out (H), I believe that, and the inclusion of the PK, would most likely make your catalogue later in the 1920s, or even very early 1930s - at a guess. Is there a page on the RB?

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