Thread: wadkin JTA restoration

That looks really sad, you have a bit of work ahead of you.
Bit scared of the rigging on the disc.
I use one decent G clamp on the disc and put the hook thru it to lift and replace the discs.
H.

Sad to see something like that left in the rain. Glad it's in safe hands again.
I'd love to use something like that. Looks impressive.

Nice find! Looking forward to seeing it finished 😊

The bobbin has a neat way of lubrication the ways, it has a little resovoir that holds oil with wicks that take it slidy parts. This one was full of water.

The sanding bobbin is well and truly rusted on, I tried levering it off and nothing, I heated it up and nothing, I left it swimming in plus gas overnight and it still wont budge

This machine must of had a proper wack to break all of these castings.


It took me a while to work out how to get the motor and mechanism out.

This machine must of been maintained pretty well before its accident. The bobbing mechanism is well greased and the ways are in good shape.

lots of work there will you be recasting or bronzing?
best of luck

I've had good results with my mig in the past but I am going to have a go at stick using nickel rods

A nice machine to have and fix up Mark . Whats the story on how you came across this one . An auction or scrap yard ?
It looks exactly the same colour as the LQ behind it as well . From The same place ?

Rob

I got it from an auction about 2 years ago. I got this and the LQ plus an interwood overhead router and something else I cant remember what. They had been dumped out the back of a big joinery place and by the looks of it they had been there a while. Obviously not cost effective to fix after being damaged. They were all in one lot which I got for £400 but by the time I got hammered with premiums and tax it came to £700. I was at the wrong end of the country so Sion Dovey kindly picked what he could up and put the JTA on a pallet for a courier, I was only interested in the JTA and the LQ so I gave Sion the other machines for his trouble.
I remember there was an RS that went for £50 don't know what condition it was in.

I got everything stripped from the main casting and lifted of the pallet that was starting to succumb to the machines weight.

Luckily lots of grease

thanks for the back story on the two machines Mark .

Wow look at that bronze gear ! How much would one of those cost if it were missing ??

Do you think Wadkin Made those at the factory or bought them in ?

I'm not sure if they would have made things like the bronze gears. They had there own foundry and pattern shop.

A bit more done

The oil ways were packed solid with crud


I thought I'd try that magic de rusting stuff and I'm not impressed, this part has been in the solution for 6 hrs and nothing.

Mmm bronze caged double row bearings

The cast Wadkin Name is interesting in that you can see the Nails or pins or maybe screws that held the letters onto the Pattern . First Ive seen that on Wadkin letters . I wonder what they made those letters from that were attached to the pattern and how many different size Wadkin cast names there are . They wouldn't be from wood because a knock while handling would break them ? Maybe they had different size letters cast in aluminum or bronze ? Id love to see some original Wadkin wooden patterns for these classic machines turn up . Unlikely though , the foundry men probably broke the obsolete patterns up to light the furnace!

Just on My machines Ive seen 3 or 4 sized names I think . I was inspecting them all a while back because My DR bandsaw has had the Wadkin name ground off . I think this is because they did not come out right in the casting and were such a mess that Wadkin decided to grind off what was left. I can see casting faults where it should be .

Rob

I've come across the pins a few times now, I think they might have been voids to make sure the molten metal made its way to the letters or like you say to hold the lettering. I've never measured them but the lettering seems to be a similar size on most achiness.

Theres one thing I really like when doing these machines is the finishing touches done by hand by a guy in 1956. The angle pointer is made from cast brass and you can see that its been hand filed to get the point in the right place.

I bought some shield technology rust remedy from workshop heaven thinking it would help clean bits. Its not cheap at £27 and I was really disappointed by the results. It says it removes rust after a couple of hours. I left a piece in for 24 and it did diddly squat. I contacted them and they said did you degrease it, and with what. I had used gunk which apparently is no good. They don't tell you on the instructions that you even need to degrease. Then I was advised I should buy there degreaser at another £25. I asked if its possible I got a duff batch.
I had to do it the old fashioned way with a wire wheel, and then used cold blackening solution.

And heres my second rant, I bought some Boeshield again not cheap at £20 a tin, used it a few times and then it wouldn't spray. Contacted the company and they said its cold weather stick it in some warm water. Still doesn't work. I have a tin from two years ago which still works.
I've got loose balls

I found a bearing but it came and I've cocked up, its single row and not self aligning.

This little lot is the tilt for the table, everything came apart reasonably easy apart from one little pinned collar which wouldn't play nice and took 2 hrs to get off.

I was hoping to use the magic deruster on this but I might set up electrolysis tub.